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| 2006/12/20-23 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:45482 Activity:high |
12/20 More attempts to track down the elusive "Capt. Hussein"
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006579.htm
\_ she's pretty hot, I'll convert to a Republican to screw her.
\_ I haven't read the above url, but I've read a lot of MM urls,
and she is a troll of the highest order. Doesn't contribute
anything, is thin skinned, isn't particularly witty, I'm
just not gonna do it anymore. Even Andrew Sullivan
and Pat Buchanan make points that I can agree with
now and then. MM should be ejected into the sun.
\_ "Written by fools to be read by imbeciles."
\_ Wow, I'm glad you're so damn open-minded. The post is about
trying to track down the fake Cap. Hussein. It's not nearly as
much opinion as simple investigation.
\_ It doesn't even matter. CNN/AP/Reuters/NBC/etc have been
busted making up stories or twisting the truth so many times
it isn't possible to read their stories as anything more
than that anymore: stories. This Captain Hussein thing is
just one more in a long long long list of lies.
\_ Do the voices tell you to do things? -dans
\_ I'm trying to figure out the desired end result here. So you
and MM are saying that someone is deliberately exaggerating
the number of violent incidents around Baghdad? Is that it?
I happen to think that it's all underreported. I think there
are tons of violent incidents in Baghdad and the surrounding
areas that are a result of sectarian civil whatever the hell
you want to call it violence, and a lot of horrible things
happen but it's not reported, since reporters cannot safely
travel anywhere in Iraq. It all sucks. MM sucks.
\_ The desired end result is that the media report the truth, not
report what they think or want the truth to be even if they
sometimes guess right. No one is denying there are deaths,
death squads, violence, etc.
\_ This Hussein thing must be under my radar. I scan
paper copies of the Chronicle, NY Times, and WSJ nearly
every day and I've never heard of it.
\_ Exactly. Look at your news sources.
\_ All right smart guy, I try to stay informed. I read.
I read the above 3 papers. I watch Fox to get a good
chuckle now and then. WHAT SHOULD I BE READING?
Your fucking retarded MM blog? Or maybe Little
Green Footballs? The WSJ, if you ignore the editorial
page, is one of the finest news sources around.
\_ It isn't "my fucking retarded MM blog". Anyway, I
don't think it matters what _you_ read. Your mind
is set. Read whatever reinforces whatever you
already want to believe and be happy.
\_ I actually don't know why anyone would object to that
list. Though the Chron is one of the most biased rags
I've ever seen. -op
\_ Actually, it doesn't even really qualify as a blog
since she doesn't allow any reader comments. More
of a self-published amateur diary.
\_ She used to... but then people started posting
naked penii redirects all over her pages. She should
have hired a right wing CAPTCHA dude.
naked penii redirects all over her pages. She
should have hired a right wing CAPTCHA dude.
\_ The plural of Penis is not Penii.
\_ The stories citing this mythical Capt Hussein are invariably the
most extreme examples. The story about people throwing kerosene
on worshippers leaving a mosque and lighting them on fire as
Iraqi police were watching for instance. -op
\_ You are right, MM is so fair and balanced and unbiased,
I am glad you showed me the light. I can now stop wasting
my time reading the WSJ, NYT, The Economist, The Week and
all that other MSM trash and just get all my information
about the outside world from the brilliant and beautiful
MM.
\_ I haven't been saying anything about your reading choices.
But you're not responding to the points about Hussein. -op
\_ Points were made about Hussein in this thread? I don't
see any. -dans |
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| michellemalkin.com/archives/006579.htm jpg After receiving initial reports from a Civilian Police Advisory Training Team (CPATT) source two days ago and investigating further, here's what I can tell you: According to two CPATT officials--one in the US, one in Iraq--there is no one named "Jamil Hussein" working now or ever at either at the Yarmouk or al Khadra police stations. That is what they have said all along and nothing has changed. I have another military source on the ground who works with the Iraqi Army (separate and apart from the CPATT sources) and is checking into whether anyone named "Jamil Hussein" has ever worked at Yarmouk. There is only one police officer whose first name is "Jamil" currently working at the Khadra station, according to my CPATT sources. ") Previously, Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim worked at a precinct in Yarmouk, according to the CPATT sources. hat captain has long been know to the AP reporters and has had a record of reliability and truthfulness. He has been based at the police station at Yarmouk, and more recently at al-Khadra, another Baghdad district, and has been interviewed by the AP several times at his office and by telephone. Let's review: AP's source, supposedly named "Jamil Gholaiem Hussein," used to work at Yarmouk but now works at al Khadra. CPATT says the one person named "Jamil" now at al Khadra -- Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim -- also used to work at Yarmouk. His last name is almost identical to the middle name of AP's alleged source. two days ago based on a single CPATT source who said he had erroneously stated that Gulaim had admitted being the source. To repeat: Both CPATT sources in the US and Iraq have confirmed that Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim denies speaking to the AP. That leaves a couple of unanswered questions: 1 Is Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim the real name of AP's oft-cited source? If he is a Baghdad police officer, as AP asserts, why hasn't anyone--not CPATT, not MOI, not Marc Danzinger's sources--been able to locate him? I'll be sending these questions to AP executive editor Kathleen Carroll. Bob Owens' thorough post exploring the ethics of using undisclosed pseudonyms for sources. He surveyed journalists and media mavens from all parts of the ideological spectrum with these three questions: If it is determined that a reporter has been using named source in an on-going series of stories, and that name turns out to be a pseudonym, under what circumstances would this be considered unethical behavior, and how serious a breach of ethics would this be? Would it be compounded if the reporter insisted upon the veracity of the pseudonym? What responsibility does the reporter bear in verifying the identity of his source? See-Dubya saves her the trouble and cites AP policy: Nothing in our news report - words, photos, graphics, sound or video - may be fabricated. We don't use pseudonyms, composite characters or fictional names, ages, places or dates. AP's defenders are flummoxed about why this "one story" matters so much in the larger context of violence in Iraq. Junkyard Blog has compiled a very valuable map of the wide variety of Baghdad locations from which "Captain Jamil Hussein" had reported incidents of violence to the AP. Eason Jordan is still looking, but has nothing new to report: Several IraqSlogger colleagues in Baghdad are tracking leads in an effort to locate Jamil Hussein. IraqSlogger's two biggest concerns: determining the ground truth and not losing lives in the process. The Baghdad neighborhood where the disputed episode occurred, Hurriya, is a dangerous Shia area, while the neighborhoods where Captain Jamil Hussein is supposedly based (Yarmouk and/or Khadraa) are volatile Sunni-dominated Sunni-Shia mixed areas. Iraqi police are themselves the frequent target of terrorist and insurgent attacks -- thousands have been killed -- and police stations are difficult-to-approach fortresses. Iraqi police have understandable anxieties and suspicions when outsiders start poking around in an effort to track down a certain police officer. Also worrisome: Some Iraqi police are alleged to be members of sectarian death squads. Bottom line: This effort to find Jamil Hussein is dangerous for all involved on the ground. Nevertheless, since "Jamil Hussein" has been quoted in dozens of AP stories, he'd seemingly not be impossible to track down in person. We'll get back to you with ground truth when we determine it. |