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2006/11/9-11 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:45309 Activity:high
11/9    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/09/election.main/index.html
        Pelosi said she'll push for implementing all 9/11 Commission
        recommendations on national security, raising the minimum wage to
        $7.25, eliminating corporate subsidies for oil companies, allowing
        the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices, imposing new
        restrictions on lobbyists, cutting interest rates on college loans
        and supporting embryonic stem-cell research. EVIL LIBERAL
        AGENDAS!                                                -Republican
        \_ I think she also said cutting budgets and not raising taxes, like
           she's a Republican.
           \_ Raising the minimum wage is not a tax increaese?
              \_ Its raising the cost of business... which is not a tax.
              \_ budget increase, you mean
           \_ Letting the current tax cut expire is a tax increase.
        \_ http://www.rightwasright.com
           \_ I'm down with 6 and 18.  And before you think I'm joking about
              6, think about how that would work out (note, I didn't say we'd
              _support_ Hussein, just _reinstate_ him)
              \_ You realize that would mean immediate full-scale civil war,
                 right?
                 \_ I doubt he cares.
        \_ Remember, no matter what the gov't says, the minimum wage is always
           zero.
           \_ Huh?
              \_ If you lay someone off, they're earning 0 -!pp
                 \_ So raising minimum wage leads to layoffs... uh huh...
                    do some research young grasshopper.
                    \_ I didn't say i agreed with "Remember..." guy, I was just
                       explaining what "zero" meant.
                 \_ Uh, if you lay them off, they're not working for you, so
                    you're not giving them a wage of zero. You either don't
                    give them a wage, or give them wage > minimum. Unless it's
                    one of those special cases or you're being illegal.
                    \_ no, then we all give them a wage in state funds and
                       services in exchange for nothing while they look for
                       another job.
                       \_ ok but then the wage ain't zero?
                          \_ It's not zero.  Wage is the amount of money they
                             get in return when they work.  In this case they
                             are not working, so the wage quantity doesn't
                             exist.
        \_ What about the abortion squads to gather new stem cells and control
           overpopulation? This is a golden opportunity.
        \_ Raising the minimum wage is a pretty blunt instrument, and I
           think it rarely has the result it's implementers intend.
           \_ Raising the minimum is inflationary.  The real reason for doing
              so has nothing to do with working poor.  It has to do with the
              fact that most union worker rates are based on a multiple of the
              minimum wage so by increasing the minimum by some percent she
              just gave an automatic wage increase to most union workers by
              that amount.  It's just a pay off to the unions in exchange for
              supporting the party that the rest of us all pay for.  <s> I'm
              glad to see we're still doing business as usual.  I was somewhat
              concerned something might change.  </sarcasm>.
           \_ what are other alternatives you are proposing?  Here is something
              I don't understand.  If people so dispise minimum wage, why
              there is no talk about "ABOLISHING* it?  Why don't we at the
              same time abolish the minimum *AGE* too?  Let the free market
              decide what is the minimum wage and minimum AGE.
              \- because "people" dont despise the minimum wage.
                 in fact it's not even close. it's quite popular in
                 nationalwide polling. google for the obvious like
                 "poll, support minimum wage" etc. we can reasonably
                 argue about various parts of the regulatory state but
                 only nutjobs want to go back to laissez faire red in
                 tooth and claw [disallow regulation of hours, health and
                 safety etc, see lochner etc.].
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Most Popular Bush, Dems promise cooperation as Senate shifts Story Highlights NEW: Sen. George Allen's concession speech makes Senate power shift final President Bush says he's open to new ideas on Iraq Bush says he is open to suggestions on Iraq policy Bush meets Democrats at White House, promises "new era of cooperation" Adjust font size: Decrease font Decrease font Enlarge font Enlarge font WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush and top Democrats promised to get along Thursday -- the same day that a GOP Virginia senator's concession speech gave the opposition party the final seat they needed for total congressional control. George Allen announced his defeat in Alexandria, Virginia, telling his supporters, "The Bible teaches us there is a time and place for everything, and today I called and congratulated Jim Webb." Webb's win over Allen gives Democrats a 51-49 advantage in the Senate, counting two independents who have said they will caucus with the party. 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Now that the election is behind us, and the Democrats control both houses of Congress, there's no reason not to admit it: the Right was right about us all along. com/ 1 Mandatory homosexuality 2 Drug-filled condoms in schools 3 Introduce the new Destruction of Marriage Act 4 Border fence replaced with free shuttle buses 5 Osama Bin Laden to be Secretary of State 6 Withdraw from Iraq, apologize, reinstate Hussein 7 English language banned from all Federal buildings 8 Math classes replaced by encounter groups 9 All taxes to be tripled 10. Freeways to be removed, replaced with light rail systems 14. Pledge of Allegiance in schools replaced with morning flag-burning 15. Stem cells allowed to be harvested from any child under the age of 8 16. Dissolve Executive Branch: reassign responsibilities to UN 20. Outlaw all firearms: previous owners assigned to anger management therapy 22. Ban Christmas: replace with Celebrate our Monkey Ancestors Day 24. New Amendments: In the spirit of democracy, the Right Was Right staff has culled these late-breaking suggestions from our Internet readers: All buildings named for Ronald Reagan to be coverted to low-income housing - Troy M Change the national symbol to a chicken - Craig S Take away all children of Christians at birth to be raised in state-run communal collectives.