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2006/10/31-11/2 [Politics/Domestic/Election, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:45061 Activity:kinda low
10/31   Looks like the October Surprise was Kerry being an incredible
        dumbass.
        \_ Heh.  link:csua.org/u/hcc
        \_ He certainly didn't sound good, did he.
        \_ I wish he had STFU until Nov 8th.
        \_ Uh, for botching a joke about the president, and then having
           it taken out of context?
           \_ Excuse me but "bullshit!".  He meant it exactly the way it was
              said.  He's an idiot.
              \_ Have you read the transcript?  It followed another Bush joke.
                 The audience got the joke, even as mangled. You're either
                 lying or stupid.
                 \_ I read it.  The motd is the only place on the planet that
                    agrees with you.  Maybe you're right and the entire world
                    is wrong.  He certainly needs to STFU and stop trying to
                    play tough guy in some lame attempt to make up for the
                    way he allowed himself to be run over in 2004.  "Oh, I'm
                    a tough guy now, vote for me in 2008, no apologies for
                    being a moron, rah rah rah!"
                    \_ The whitehouse, rushlimbaugh, and freerepublic are the
                       only others who believe as you do.  And the whitehouse
                       is already backing off their stridency on this, likely
                       because of Kerry's press conference. I now must put you
                       in the "stupid" column.
                       \_ Which is why officials and elected leaders in his
                          own party have asked him to *not* show at Dem
                          rallies this week and said he should apologise.
                          If being aware of current events is your stupid
                          column then please put me firmly on that side.
                          \_ Tester, Casey and Ford do indeed have a bit
                             of the stupid in them.
              \_ Yes, he meant that you can either work hard and study or you
                 can end up getting your country's military stuck in a bloody
                 quagmire.
              \_ I think that Kerry is just as good at flubbing public speeches
                 as Bush is, and this is a typical example.  I think Kerry was
                 making a jab at Bush just as he said, but he should have done
                 what a normal person would with an apology, rather than
                 preemtively attacking Rush Limbaugh.  /That/ showed his lack
                 of character more than the original comment. -emarkp
                 \_ I vote based on a person's character.  -Average American
                 \_ From http://RushLimbaugh.com, from yesterday's show:
                    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_103106/content/and_along_comes_lurch_2.guest.html
                    With the cute little comment "Watch the video, and see if
                    Kerry or anyone else laughs as if it's a joke at Bush's
                    expense." along with a video clip with the laughter (that
                    is indeed there on the live feed) is cut.  Preemptive, my
                    foot.  Fuck you, and fuck Rush.
                    \_ I don't give a rip about Rush Limbaugh.  Kerry slammed
                       him before his show even aired. -emarkp
        \_ And to think this arrogant moron was almost elected....
           \_ Yeah, good thing the other arrogant moron was elected.
              \_ Actually, yes, it is.  There are worse things than GWB.  Such
                 as John Kerry.  He flubbed the joke before he made the joke.
                 Or did he make the joke before he flubbed the joke.  Or maybe
                 the joke was just nuanced and he's the only one smart enough
                 to understand it.  Or he flubbed the nuancing of the apology
                 before making the joke about the soldier's apology to him.
                 Or something like that.
                 \_ Or maybe he was making a joke about the President partying
                    too much in college instead of learning that you don't get
                    to invade countries just because you're the President. I
                    know, it's not really funny because the results of Bush's
                    Folly have been so painful, but do try to see the irony.
                    Frankly, I'm having a really hard time trying to imagine
                    anyone doing worse than Bush. [Edit: Of course that's
                    immediately not true. Lyndon Larouche, Ross Perot, Dan
                    Quayle, Dick Cheney, Gary Bauer, Alan Keyes... hell, the
                    list is long and varied. It's also populated by the lower
                    5% of the pool.]
                    \_ How weird that you only mention right wingers as people
                       who could be worse.  I'm sure you're not allowing your
                       personal bias to color your thinking.  Carry on,
                       Comrade!  The fact is both parties are corrupt and this
                       whole "your party is teh suxx0r but my party is teh
                       r0xx0rz!@1" thing is truly moronic.  If you can't see
                       the flaws in one party while being able to see the same
                       flaws in the other, you are truly hopeless.  Vote third
                       party.
                       \_ Oh, sorry: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, Joe
                          Lieberman, James McGreevey. Find me corrupt Dem
                          chickenhawks, and I'll add them to the list.
                          \_ So you think Dan Quayle belongs on the same list
                             as Stalin?  Whatever.  Vote third party.
                             \_ No, I think DQ would have made a worse Pres.
                                than Bush. I think Stalin would make a worse
                                Pres. than Bush. I think 95% of the pool would
                                make a better Pres. than Bush. Did you flunk
                                reading comprehension?
                             \_ What third party?  Libertarian?  Green?
                                Communist?  A more reasonable response is that
                                people need to get away from parties, and we
                                need to find ways to get higher quality
                                individuals into politics.  The solution of
                                the problem of political parties is not
                                more political parties.
        \_ HALP US JON CARRY!
         http://www.620wtmj.com/images/uploaded/Help%20Photo20061101105508.JPG
        \_ So I am really trying to figure this one out: why does a toungue
           tied has-been washed up second rate politician rate so much
           attention? Is this just an effort by the GOP to change the subject
           off of Iraq? Do they think this is going to work for them, or is
           \_ Not to state the obvious, BUT YES, OF COURSE.
           this one of those "Hail Mary" situations, like in the WSU vs. Cal
           game last week?
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RUSH: We need to keep playing this to remind people what we're talking about. John Kerry, Pasadena city collage last night in a rally for California Democrat gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides. KERRY: You know, education, if you make the most of it and you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you -- you can do well. Statement said, "If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. I'm sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war but love to attack those who did. to start lying about me just as they've lied about Iraq." Well, I guess that defiance and that strong backbone that he tried to effect there didn't work because ABC Radio News at the top of the hour floated a trial balloon response. Well, that didn't fly because they've come out now with another stab at this. The latest from the Kerry camp is this: It was a joke that came out slightly mangled. Now, Senator Kerry, why don't you get some guts -- like me. Stand up for what you said, regardless what people say about you. But no, you issued this huge macho statement, "I'm not going to take this! I'm not going to be lectured to by a bunch of fat spokesmen! I wanted to remind you, Rush, the reason that we intelligent people know that he wasn't talking about President Bush is because Bush graduated with better grades than Kerry did. " Well, the bottom line is that Kerry's grades were slightly below Bush's throughout their entire college career. So if he's trying to say here that Bush is dumb, this a stupid statement. He's part of the secret society, but he's not, folks, a dim bulb. There is formal education, which obviously has its value, but then there's average daily common sense intelligence -- and Kerry just doesn't have it. We don't know how smart or dumb he is because he can't stop thinking or talking about himself. Oscar in Bellevue, Nebraska, welcome to the EIB Network. CALLER: I was in the Air Force for 17 years, and during my time in the Air Force, I finished one degree and completed a second degree, and of the people that I met, I met from all social stratas. And there were many that joined, you know, had degrees and became officers. I knew other people who were from more, you know, depressed upbringings, and did use the military to get out of that, and went on to get degrees and do very well. I want to expand on that, because what Kerry is doing is common. They have made it a practice to impugn and denigrate members of the US military. They go to their hick towns and they try to tell us that these people have no hope and no prayer of getting out of the horrible economic circumstances that Bush gave us. The Democrats, "They have to risk their lives to live in this country, because they don't have opportunity here: education, health care," whatever their stupid mantras are. Let's, just for a moment, assume that there is truth -- just hypothetically. Let's say that there are some members of the military who come from such destitute backgrounds, they have no hope, that the only hope they've got is to join the military and risk their lives getting killed. They are joining, they are volunteering to serve the country and defend it during wartime! Why put them down regardless what their circumstance, even if you make up their circumstances? There's no other way to interpret this, senator, whether you were joking or whether whatever, you were putting them down. You were denigrating them as uneducated morons because in your sick, twisted view, this advances your political cause. Apparently the US military may as well be a death sentence. BREAK TRANSCRIPT RUSH: The babe in purple on the Fox News Channel is Lisa Bernbach, a "talk show host." Syndicated talk show host on something like two stations, but who is it? You know, it would take us less time to go through the entire US population and say who is not a talk show host. Everybody and their damn uncle and grandson is a talk show host these days. So she's got no audience, and she said he was tired, Kerry was "just tired."