10/19 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2585531
N Korean general in charge of demilitarized zone tells Diane Sawyer
that nukes are for self-defense only, and that N Korea does not have
a relationship with terrorist groups.
\_ so what?
\_ exactly. japan also announced it won't be building nukes, and
china says it will just be conducting more vigorous inspections
of border traffic than usual.
\_ Why would you take anything a N.K. official says at face value,
esp. when told to the U.S. media?
\_ because available data suggest that this face-to-face meeting
may be providing the relatively accurate current posture. it's
beyond obvious NOT to trust a NK PR statement by itself.
\_ uhm, what data? i thought nk was incredibly closed and we
know nothing about what is going on?
\_ data == china and U.S. strategy
\_ in a strict sense, having a nuke IS for self-defence. N.Korea
is under constant threat from USA. Given USA's policy of regime
change and all, N.Korea knew it is on top of the list. I don't
like N.Korean regime anymore than you do, but I can certainlly
understand where they are coming from. In a way, there are times
I wish USA would do more, including
- come up with a post-war plan for the first time
- give assurnace to China that all refugees can be transfered to
USA
- etc, etc. only under such conditions, China might turn off the
tap.
\_ Why would we accept 20 million N Korean refugees?
\_ if you want to be tough against N.Korea, you need to
accept that as part of the cost. Right now, Both Americans
and Japanese are being a chicken hawk who want to see the
collapse of the regime, but don't want to deal with the
consequences. I think we all know what is like to
topple a regime without any nation-building effort by now
no?
\_ It depends on how the current government falls. If there
is a coup then the old guard is executed or (rarely)
exiled and life goes on with maybe a few policy changes
and a foreign diplomacy "reset".
\_ Isn't the natural place for a North Korean refugee to go if
NK disintegrates South Korea? I don't know that much about
Korean politics, but I've never met a Korean who didn't want
a unified peninsula.
\_ they all say that but non of them really want to pay the
price of absorbing N.Koreans right now.
\_ Unlike the refugees after the Vietnam war, there is no British
Hong Kong to actually absorb most of them this time when the
US claims that it'll accept them. |