10/18   When NOT to respond to a job posting when the poster is clearly
        an idiot or a typical MBA who thinks a computer science
        degree is all about creating HTML pages:
        Job Description:
        Design, developement and implementation of HTML for XXX.
        The current website for XXX is, to put it mildly, decrepid.  We
        need an organized, motivated student (previous web design
        experience preferential) to revamp our HTML. The web site needs
        to allow users to sign on, put in credit card information,
        allow shopping carts, update and sync inventory automatically,
        generate work flow, print out shipment labels, optimize
        operation flow, and provide statistics for analysis.
        We need the HTML immediately. Pay: $10-15/hour depending on
        experience.
        \_ I had an interesting conversation with a Haas guy who thinks
           computer science is all about setting up Linux servers, creating
           HTML pages, and working for http://Amazon.com/eBay and creating pages
           and such.
           \_ That is what most CS grads end up doing. Some don't even
              do that well.
        \_ well.. all web app server code spews html so what is the diff?
        \_ Doesn't matter if it *is* all abut creating HTML pages. They
           want all of that work for $10/hour??!?!?!
           \_ You realize this is pretty good for a starving student, yes?
              \_ I was making $13.75/hr as a co-op 15yrs ago, and I wasn't a
                 hot-shot.
              \_ No, it's not. As the above person said, I was making $8+/hour
                 as a mail courier 15 years ago at UC. For someone to
                 basically build this guy's entire web site which does
                 all of that backend shit... good luck to him! I am not
                 sure $20 or even $30 per hour is fair. The market rate is
                 probably twice that. I hope no student decides to do it
                 out of desperation.
           \_ $15/hour is sort of ridiculously low for arguably
              professional work, that's true.  "Credit card information"
              means you better get someone who knows WTF they are doing.
              \_ The fun part is after they fail to get *any* resumes even
                 remotely useful they'll just say all tech people suck and
                 that justifies the low rate.  Hopefully they'll go out of
                 business soon.
                 \_ Well I figure they'll either give up, or else ask for bids
                    from real web design places (and hopefully realize how
                    much this sort of thing really costs).