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10/12 http://www.csua.org/u/h67 (Yahoo! News on 10/10): 'China's U.N. Ambassador, Wang Guangya, told reporters: "I think that there has to be some punitive actions.' http://www.csua.org/u/h68 (Yahoo! News on 10/12): 'Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said North Korea should understand it had made a mistake but "punishment should not be the purpose" of any U.N. response.' \_ There is a fundamental differences between Japan/US and China/S.Korea. Both Japan and US want the N.Korean regime collaps, China and S.Korea doesn't simply because they don't want to deal with the refugees. Besides, China got a big party coming up (Olympics) they don't want N.Koreans to ruin the party. American policies toward N.Korea is actually not much different from Iraq: regime change without any plan for post-war planning and nation building. Everyone talk about punish N.Korea, but China's concern is that if we tighten the screw just a little bit more, the regime might collaps and millions of refugees would flood across the Yalu river. China's consideration is more practical, yet Neocons and China-haters on motd kept painting this as some sort of ideoogical fight. Unless you are prepared to occupies collapsed N.Korea (when I say you, I mean S.Koreans and Americans) and feed the people and help S.Koreans to absorb the rest of N.Koreas, keeping the regime as it is is probably the best thing we can do right now. and for those who don't have any sense of history: It is not a good idea for China to occupy N.Koreas. Koreans will deeply resent that, take my word for it. \_ This is like saying the Soviets should have been kept in power because no one wanted to deal with the Eastern bloc refugees. \_ Wow. I was just pointing out the fact that official statements from the same government two days apart contradict to each other. If you think this is the way to get practical, okay. \_ Wow. How could I have staged an ideological fight when the other party claims that North Korea should AND should not be punished? Whichever side I'm on, the other party agrees with me! I was just pointing out the fact that official statements from the same government two days apart contradict to each other. If you think this is the way to get practical on issues, okay. --- OP |
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| www.csua.org/u/h67 -> news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061010/wl_canada_nm/canada_korea_north_col_32 North Korea's most important ally, on Tuesday joined other world powers in calling for a tough response to the reclusive communist state's announcement of a nuclear weapons test. UN Security Council to discuss a range of sanctions proposed by the United States and Japan to pressure Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear program. China's UN Ambassador, Wang Guangya, told reporters: "I think that there has to be some punitive actions." He added: "We need to have a firm, constructive, appropriate but prudent response to North Korea's nuclear threat." United Nations resolution on this issue should not involve the use of force. imagine if there was military action on the territory of North Korea ... North Korea has borders with three countries, and one of them is Russia," he told reporters. The United States, France and Britain, the other Council permanent members, agreed that tough measures were needed fast, despite the fact that only one country -- Russia -- has said the evidence so far available confirms a nuclear blast actually occurred. No vote has been scheduled but Japan's UN Ambassador Kenzo Oshima, this month's council president, said: "The general feeling of members is to get it done as early as possible." In Beijing, China said it had no information about widespread speculation that North Korea might be ready to conduct a second test. Asked what Beijing thought of the possibility of military action, Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told a news conference: "I think this is an unimaginable way." A Hong Kong newspaper, Wen Wei Po, reported that China had canceled leave for troops along at least part of its border with North Korea and that some were conducting "anti-chemical" training exercises. Hu Jintao 's doctrine of using economic and diplomatic coaxing to persuade it to drop its nuclear ambitions. The announcement on Monday that it had conducted an underground nuclear test followed years of diplomatic efforts, particularly from Washington, to stop the unpredictable country from joining the seven other declared nuclear weapons states. It was seen as an attempt to push the United States into ending a crackdown on North Korea's illicit finances, much of it derived from missile sales, and finally agree to one-on-one negotiations. Washington has insisted any negotiations with Pyongyang should be within regional six-party talks, which have, however, failed to stall Pyongyang's march to nuclear power status. South Korea 's Yonhap news agency quoted a North Korean official saying the country would only return to those talks to end its nuclear development if Washington made concessions. "We are still willing to abandon nuclear programs and return to six-party talks ... if the United States takes corresponding measures," it quoted the unidentified official as saying from Beijing. But he added that Pyongyang was prepared to put nuclear warheads on missiles and conduct additional nuclear tests "depending on how the situation develops." A United States draft proposal on sanctions calls for international inspections of cargo moving into and out of North Korea to detect weapons-related material, a provision diplomats believe may be the most controversial The draft also includes a freeze on any transfer or development of weapons of mass destruction and a ban on luxury goods presumably enjoyed by communist officials as well as other measures. Japan proposed even more stringent measures in amendments to the document from US Ambassador John Bolton, a copy of which was obtained by Reuters. These included banning all North Korean ships and planes from ports and imposing a travel ban on high-level Pyongyang officials. JAPAN'S SANCTIONS Japan effectively froze remittances and transfers to North Korea by those suspected of links to the development of weapons of mass destruction after missile tests by Pyongyang in July. The other major player in the crisis, South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun, vowed to review his "sunshine policy" of engagement with the North after commentators slammed him for being too soft. One declared the country was now in its worst crisis since the Korean War more than half a century ago. Tony Blair , asked in a BBC television interview how worried people should be said: "We should be very worried." "The other tragedy about North Korea is what is happening to the people there. The people live in virtual starvation, almost a form of political oppression that's akin to slavery. And meanwhile they spend billions of dollars on a nuclear weapons program." Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Tokyo wanted to confirm a nuclear test had in fact been carried out before imposing sanctions, but indicated action might be taken even without verification. US officials said it could take several days for intelligence analysts to determine whether the event in an area near North Korea's border with China was an unsuccessful nuclear test, a small nuclear device or a non-nuclear explosion. White House spokesman Tony Snow introduced a strong element of suspicion, saying North Korea was claiming to have detonated a nuclear weapon only two years after expelling international weapons inspectors. "You seriously believe that they have actually done everything within two years? You could have something that is very old and off the shelf here as well," Snow told reporters. Last week, after Pyongyang said it planned to test a nuclear weapon, the Bush administration made clear it believed any such explosion was completely unacceptable. "We are not going to live with a nuclear North Korea, we are not going to accept it," US Assistant Secretary of State Chris Hill said last Wednesday. He said North Korea "can have a future or it can have these weapons. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon. |
| www.csua.org/u/h68 -> news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061012/ap_on_re_as/koreas_nuclear_221;_ylt=Apo7DC5arETqzoA6N3vifpOCscEA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said North Korea should understand it had made a mistake but "punishment should not be the purpose" of any UN response. UN action "should be conducive to the de-nuclearization of the Korean peninsula ... "It's necessary to express clearly to North Korea that ... the international community is opposed to this nuclear test." UN Security Council resolution that seeks to ban travel by people involved in North Korea's weapons program but softens some other measures to win Russian and Chinese support. North Korea warned it would consider increased US pressure an act of war and take unspecified countermeasures. China's response to the crisis has been closely watched because it is considered to have the most leverage with the unpredictable, reclusive North Korean regime. China, a veto-wielding Security Council member, is the North's top provider of desperately needed energy and economic aid. Chinese officials have refused to say publicly what consequences they believe North Korea should face for its claimed nuclear test, although its UN ambassador, Wang Guangya, agreed earlier this week that the Security Council must impose "punitive actions." Japan is imposing its own new sanctions against North Korea. The ruling Liberal Democratic Party approved several harsh measures Thursday, including limits on imports and a ban on all North Korean ships in Japanese waters. The latest US proposal, obtained by The Associated Press Wednesday night, dropped Japanese demands to prohibit North Koreans ships from entering any port, and North Korean aircraft from taking off or landing in any country. These sanctions would likely face strong Russian and Chinese opposition. The resolution would still require countries to freeze all assets related to North Korea's weapons and missile programs. But a call to freeze assets from other illicit activities such as "counterfeiting, money-laundering or narcotics" was dropped. So was a call to prevent "any abuses of the international financial system" that could contribute to the transfer or development of banned weapons. The North will consider increased US pressure "a declaration of war," RI Kong Son, vice spokesman for North Korea's Foreign Ministry, said in an interview with AP Television News in Pyongyang. He said North Korea would take unspecified "physical countermeasures." Song Il Ho, a North Korean envoy to Japan, gave a similar warning to Tokyo. "We will take strong countermeasures," he told Kyoto News Agency. Since Pyongyang announced it exploded its first atomic bomb Monday, there have been daily South Korean and Japanese news reports that the North is preparing another test. On Thursday, the South Korean newspaper Munhwa Ilbo quoted an unidentified source familiar with North Korean affairs as saying a second test would occur in two or three days. South Korea 's National Intelligence Service could not immediately be reached for comment. South Korean scientists have been scrambling for signs of radioactivity that would confirm Monday's underground test. Han Seung-jae, an official at the Korea Institute of Nuclear Safety, said experts were still unsure the North had tested a nuclear device. "So far, we have not detected any abnormal level of radioactivity" in South Korea, he said. Japanese military planes have also been monitoring for radioactivity in the atmosphere but have reported no abnormal readings. President Bush refused to agree to such a meeting in a news conference Wednesday. He argued that Pyongyang would be more likely to listen to the protests of many nations. Bush added that the US was ready to defend its allies in the region, but that it would also try to use diplomacy to deal with North Korea. "I believe the commander in chief must try all diplomatic measures before we commit our military," he said. United Nations , Foster Klug in Washington, Kozo Mizoguchi in Tokyo, William Foreman in Seoul, South Korea, and Kim Kwang-Tae and Bo-mi Lim in Seoul contributed to this report. North Korean soldiers stand guard at the truce village of Panmunjom in the demilitarized zone that separates the two Koreas since the Korean War, north of Seoul, South Korea, Wednesday, Oct. South Korea's military was reportedly readying for a nuclear conflict on Wednesday as rival North warned an international push to level sanctions on Pyongyang over its atomic weapons test would be an act to war. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. |