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2006/10/11-13 [Science/GlobalWarming, Politics/Foreign/Asia/Korea] UID:44776 Activity:nil
10/11   http://csua.org/u/h5x (iht.com)
        Russian defense minister reaffirms 5 to 15 kiloton estimate:
        "Our estimates have remained absolutely unchanged ... The discrepancy
        in the estimates can be explained by two reasons. The first is purely
        political ... somebody wants it to be more powerful, somebody less ...
        The second aspect is purely technical. Whose national technical devices
        do you think are closest to the site of the explosion? That is the
        answer to your question."
        \_ Unless the Russkies have a monitoring station just over the border,
           I'd still trust the South Koreans.
           \_ Why would you trust the Russians under any circumstances?
        \_ Hmm, the Russian defense minister is saying Russia wants the test to
           be more powerful.  And like he said, it's purely political.  Ha ha!
           This guy beats Dan Quayle.
        \_ I still think N.Koreans are bluffing.  In either case, Bush/Cheney
           should for the first time draw up a post-conflict plan and thinking
           about nation building.  The funny thing is, S.Koreans, long  desires
           unification of their motherland, is in no mood to absorb N.Koreans
           right now.  China was actively training a set of shadow government
           officials, but they are not in the mood for N.Koreans to ruin the
           2008 Olympics.
           \_ You think they're faked a mini nuke with a huge pile of
              conventional explosives or you think they will keep trying to
              set off nukes?  What part do you think the NK are bluffing?
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"A nuclear device was tested, it is a colossal blow to the nonproliferation regime. North Korea de facto has become the ninth nuclear power," Ivanov told reporters in Moscow. On Monday, the defense minister had said there was "no doubt" North Korea had carried out a nuclear test, and said the force of the underground blast was equivalent to 5,000 to 15,000 tons of TNT -- several times greater than a South Korean estimate. The White House said Tuesday there is a "remote possibility" that the world will never be able to fully determine whether North Korea succeeded in conducting a nuclear test on Monday. While acknowledging that the action was provocative, the US White House press secretary, Tony Snow, suggested it was possible that the test was something less than it appeared. But the Russian defense minister insisted: "Our estimates have remained absolutely unchanged." Ivanov suggested there were political reasons for minimizing the North Korean nuclear test and said that Russia's proximity to the test site in neighboring North Korea meant it was able to assess it accurately. "The discrepancy in the estimates can be explained by two reasons. somebody wants it to be more powerful, somebody less (powerful), but I am not responsible for that," Ivanov said. Whose national technical devices do you think are closest to the site of the explosion? The eight states known to have nuclear weapons are the United States, Russia, France, China, Britain, India, Pakistan and Israel.