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2006/10/5-7 [Politics/Domestic/Gay, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:44697 Activity:nil
10/5    http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/10/three_more_form.html
        "Three more former congressional pages have come forward ... Foley
        told [one page] that if he happened to be in Washington, D.C., he
        could stay at Foley's home if he 'would engage in oral sex'"
        \_ Now that Foley resigned, why are we still hearing about this?
           \_ Hastert still hasn't stepped down.
           \_ Because instead of acting like the conservatives they claim to
              be the (R) leadership acted like political party hacks instead
              and ran around covering their own hides instead of doing the
              right thing (which would've happened when they first found out
              about it, not a year later).  The sooner they're gone the better.
              \_ Hastert's defense is something like, "All I knew about were
                 about the inappropriate e-mails (asking for the student's
                 pic).  Foley was warned and we didn't hear anything more,
                 so that was it.  We had no idea he was talking about dick in
                 the e-mails / Internet messages."
                 \_ Hastert has no defense.  His term was wasted.  Time to go.
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Rt_foley2_061003_nr Three more former congressional pages have come forward to reveal what they call "sexual approaches" over the Internet from former Congressman Mark Foley. when Foley began to e-mail me, asking if I had ever seen my page roommates naked and how big their penises were," said the page in the 2002 class. The former page also said Foley told him that if he happened to be in Washington, DC, he could stay at Foley's home if he "would engage in oral sex" with Foley. Click Here to Watch This Week's Brian Ross Investigates Webcast The page told ABC News he was interviewed this week by FBI agents who had a six-page list of questions about Foley and the exchanges. The second page who talked with ABC News, a graduate of the 2000 page class, says Foley actually visited the old page dorm and offered rides to events in his BMW "His e-mails developed into sexually explicit conversations, and he asked me for photographs of my erect penis," the former page said. The page said Foley maintained e-mail contact with him even after he started college and arranged a sexual liaison after the page had turned 18. The third page interviewed by ABC News, a graduate of the 1998 page class, said Foley's instant messages began while he was a senior in high school. "Foley would say he was sitting in his boxers and ask what I was wearing," the page said. "It became more weird, and I stopped responding," the page said. All three pages described similar instant message and e-mail patterns, with remarkably similar escalations of provocative questions. "He wanted to talk about sex or my penis," the page said. The three new verbal accounts are in addition to two sets of sexually explicit instant messages provided to ABC News by former pages. An online story on the Drudge Report Thursday claimed one set of the sexually explicit instant messages obtained by ABC News was part of a "prank" on the part of the former page, who reportedly says he goaded the congressman into writing the messages. "This was no prank," said one of the three former pages who talked to ABC News today about his experience with the congressman. charlotte | Oct 5, 2006 9:16:37 PM Leave it to Matt Drudge, who is nothing more than a Bush Admin mouthpeice and cover up artist, to try to debunk these kids who are coming out. This is the most disgusting debacle - it makes Clinton look like a choirboy. Regardless, Foley engaged in inappropriate behavior, and Hastert dropped the ball. Lately he hasn't seemed to with it anyway, not really alert to what's going on in the house. george | Oct 5, 2006 9:35:04 PM Drudge's first name should be Mario because he just got one-upped! Seriously, I'm getting sick Drudge's partisanship on this issue. His shoddy journalism (releasing a victim's name, implying that Foley is a victim) is beginning to show, at least for me, a longtime fan of his. Jonathan | Oct 5, 2006 10:04:07 PM I think in court it is called heresay. I don't know what Foley did or did not do, I was not there. I do kinow that anybody can say anything about anyone and it is believed by the mindless masses. If they are guilty they should be punished, if not they deserve an apology. Rob | Oct 5, 2006 10:04:21 PM A good questions from another blogger... I wonder why ABC is not interested in finding all pages that have been sexually harrassed by members of Congress? Why don't they put up a tip line that asks for any page to come forward? Would it screw up their story if a page came forward that had been sexually harrassed by a democrat? JC | Oct 5, 2006 10:04:30 PM It seems to me that there's something fishy about all this... A group of teenage boys are not put up with a homosexual hitting on them. Ask your own teenage sons how they would react to such BS. A normal teenage boy, unless he was really a wimp, would not put up with this for five minutes, much less "years" as we are ask to believe. Keep it in mind that 17 year old boys, although they are underage, some that age serve in the military. To keep there mouths shut all these years and not to fight back does not say much for them as a group. As for Foley, he clearly is a homosexual from everything we've heard. be it in the schools, the church, the Boy Scouts, or the page program. Chris | Oct 5, 2006 10:06:09 PM This thing has blown up in the Lib's faces. Young punks making up pranks and then it plays perfectly into the political scheme, a month before elections. Rocco | Oct 5, 2006 10:06:42 PM So far there is no evidence Hastert knew about the sexualy explict IM messages. However it does appear that Democratic operatives have been sitting on this "October surprise" sincxe at least this summer. 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Clinton was and never will be a choirboy, but he is a pathological liar. Mike | Oct 5, 2006 10:11:49 PM America is at War, and the topic changes to gays just before the elections. i never Voted until the mid-terms of 2002, and i am older than most. i don't Vote for the Republican Party, but do Vote against the Democrat Pary, and for "W". KarmiCommunist | Oct 5, 2006 10:15:36 PM Instant messaging may not have been popular, but Foley reportedly stayed in touch with some of these pages for years so what difference does it make that IMing wasn't popular in 1998. It's entirely possible that he made advances to a boy that was a page in 1998! Laura | Oct 5, 2006 10:17:59 PM It amazes me that so many people are baffled by why 16 and 17 year old boys would want to stay quiet about this. Leaving aside for a moment that the man they would be accusing is a US Congressman, and therefore one of the most powerful men in the world.... At 17 years old, most boys - even ones who are gay - don't want people questioning their sexuality. Its hard enough being 1 7 without the entire nation wondering about your sexuality. Potentially outing yourself while simultaneously leveling charges at a sitting United States Congressman? It would take a very, very rare 17 year old to step forward. Decent people everywhere are appalled at Foley, and appalled at the Republican leadership that protected him. Then there are those few wingnuts who only know one response: if it's a Democrat scandal, it's the Democrats' fault; if it's a Republican scandal, it's STILL the Democrats' fault. I particularly like the comment that wants to wait for the proof against Hastert (there's plenty out there already) while gleefully engaging in the absolutely unsubstantiated gossip that, somehow, somewhere, some Liberal is at fault! I also like the comments from those folks who can't figure out why someone would sit on damaging information about a powerful politician who could ruin their lives in an instant. Gee, I can't imagine why a 17-year-old might think twice before taking on a powerful senator. And most pedophiles are straight-- and just like any other predator, it's not about sex. Some of you ignorant people need to do some legitimate research based on facts, not your irrational homophobia. Angel | Oct 5, 2006 11:01:31 PM Why don't you admit that you are just trying to coverup that you are a part of "dirty tricks" just before the mid-term elections. Jt | Oct 5, 2006 11:01:41 PM "Foley's has resigned, Hastert is not the problem." Apparently he doesn't equate "the buck stop here" with any respo...