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2006/10/2-3 [Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:44621 Activity:nil
10/2    Anybody run dual boot AND parallels virtualization on a macbook pro?
        I'm trying to figure out if it's possible for the dual boot and
        parallels to share one copy of windows XP.  Or do I need to keep
        two separate copies of windows XP of disk for this to work.  Thanks.
        \_ My understanding is that this is currently not possible:
           http://tinyurl.com/etyy2 (forum.parallels.com)
           It is supposed to be available in the next version of Parallels.
        \_ You must use a separate partition for dual boot and for Parallels
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tinyurl.com/etyy2 -> forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?s=1812f5c612d860e43f74fe2e8923fae6&t=4599&highlight=bootcamp
gjlazar Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Default Bootcamp and Parallels Does it take a second install of Windows XP and another WIndows XP Purchase? Would be nice if boot camp could find the XP Installation somehow, or vice versa. flinflon Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 4 Default No it does take two separate installs from what I understand No, you have to install it for both Boot Camp and Parallels from what I understand. cajetanus Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Default Quote: Originally Posted by mean samwily Can anyone see any concerns with this? I'd assume it would be fine I am using BootCamp (triple boot) and have Parallel images of FreeBSD, Ubuntu and Windows XP for the Virtual Machine. Works perfectly, though you must be aware that the images are truly like different harddrives - they are not different partitions on your machine, just big disk images (which look like big files in the Finder). Quote: Does it take a second install of Windows XP and another Windows XP Purchase? Would be nice if boot camp could find the XP Installation somehow, or vice versa. You need to install Windows XP once in bootcamp, and once for the Virtual Machine. What would be really nice would be if Parallels would recognize partitions and be able to boot off of them in emulation. constant Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 467 Default . Quote: Originally Posted by cajetanus What would be really nice would be if Parallels would recognize partitions and be able to boot off of them in emulation. Well, the next full release, 30, was due around the end of the year. However, it is now being reported by Parallel's people to be arriving Q1 2007. I would expect that physical partitions will be available in that release. Having said that, it is one of the most requested features and may show up in a minor release before then. Having said that, there are other, more requested features which probably have a release priority. cajetanus Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 Default If and when physical partitions would be available for running Parallels, they already have my money Heck I'll pay double the price for this feature alone. aclaver Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3 Default I run Parallels and Boot Camp on same system - works perfectly (with 2 Windows licenses of course). I'm not sure how valuable physical volume support would be with respect to running 1 copy of Windows in both. Remember the virtual environment in Parallels is completely different than thereal environment in Boot Camp (different video cards, etc). Windows couldn't run in both places at the same time - it would need to be validated for each switch as Windows sees the different devices. What would be useful is that you could have data and applications shared between Parallels and Bootcamp with a dedicated physical volume. Even though you can access a physical volume in a virtual machine, you still need to run Windows from the virtual volume. The advantage is speed (the virtual Windows can access the physical volume at full speed) as well as data sharing. Paul Linden Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 54 Default People have reported success with getting MS to activate with the same license key for Boot Camp and Parallels installs, because you can't use XP in both at the same time. I haven't done this, but it wouldn't do any harm to phone and ask. BlueSkyISdotCOM Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 32 Default You're allowed to install Windows more than once on the same physical machine. If you get a "too many activations" error, you can call Microsoft, tell them that you're installing on the same computer, and they'll give you a working activation key. mcg Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 135 Default Actually, no, that's what would be called a "cheat". Microsoft's policy is very clear about this kind of thing, and a boot camp install plus a Parallels install requires two licenses of Windows XP. Windows Vista Enterprise and Ultimate will allow this kind of install with a single license though. Obviously, it is technically possible to do what you're saying, and the folks on the other end of the activation line might give you a pass (though that may be because they either 1) don't understand what you're actually doing or 2) don't understand the license issues). But let us not unintentionally deceive people here---the practice is not within the bounds of the XP license agreement. gjlazar Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 13 Default XP License for Boot Camp and Parallels I wonder if what you say is true. The Windows XP liicense is for a single machine and processor chip. Boot camp and parallels cannot be run at the same time under any circumstances and there is only one computer. You may install, use, access, display and run one copy of the Software on a single computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device ("Workstation Computer"). The Software may not be used by more than two processors at any one time on any single Workstation Computer. It's pretty clear that Microsoft does not want you to install more than one copy on a 'workstation computer'. joem Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 468 Default I dunno, it's pretty clear to me that the Parallels -- bootcamp situation didn't exist when that was written, so there's no way they could cover it. If only one copy is running, I very much doubt a court would find you in violation, but of course it's pretty unlikely to ever get that far. michaelant Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 6 Default Quote: Originally Posted by BlueSkyISdotCOM You're allowed to install Windows more than once on the same physical machine. If you get a "too many activations" error, you can call Microsoft, tell them that you're installing on the same computer, and they'll give you a working activation key. I have XP running in Boot Camp and in Parallels, on a single license. I did the Camp install first, and then when going to activate in Parallels, the MS rep on the phone asked me if my 2nd XP installation was on the same machine as the first, which it was of course, and they had no further questions, activated XP in Parallels for me. Rep didn't sound the least bit suspicious, sounded like it was part of the script that XP could be installed more than once on the same machine. Paul Linden Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 54 Default Quote: Originally Posted by mcg Actually, no, that's what would be called a "cheat". Microsoft's policy is very clear about this kind of thing, and a boot camp install plus a Parallels install requires two licenses of Windows XP. Well, whether or not you are strictly meant to have two licenses, it is true that MS reps, in full knowledge of what customers were doing, have allowed more than one activation on the same license. I doubt that anyone has anything to feel guilty about and no one should feel they have to throw more money at Microsoft.