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2006/9/28-29 [Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:44585 Activity:moderate
9/28    Blair struck a deal with Schwarzenegger.  How does a head of a national
        government strike a deal with a head of a state government which is one
        level lower?  Can a US president strike a deal with the head of the
        provincial government in Socialist Canada or Gay Communist China?
        \_ There was no treaty--just a friendly gentleman's agreement.  Only
           congress can make treaties with foreign governments.
        \_ Did you ever read the Constitution? Article I, Section X.
           hard lefties in congress can make treaties with foreign governments.
        \_ Did you ever read the Communist Manifesto? Article I, Section X.
           \_ No.
        \_ Under Art. I, Sec. 10, cl. 3 a state can enter into an agreement
           w/ a foreign nation IF congress consents. In some cases consent
           can come after the state enters into the agreement.
           This may also be of some interest to you:
           http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1154542471.shtml
           (click 'Continue Reading' to get the whole post)
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As Julian noted Monday, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger have announced an agreement on collaboration in the fight against global warming. It's titled, "United Kingdom and California Announcement on Climate Change and Clean Energy Cooperation," followed by a mission statement in which California (CA) and the UK "commit to urgent action to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and promote low carbon technologies." More specifically, the two sides "commit to work to" evaluate and implement market-based mechanisms (the UK, for example, "will share best practices on emissions trading and lessons learned in Europe"); share results from on-going studies of the economic impacts of climate change; collaborate on technical research, including coordinating energy sector movement to clean energy; and enhance linkages between their respective scientific communities. to an exchange of delegations" to develop and deploy clean energy technologies globally. NOTE: The "Next Steps" section--indeed the entire second page of the announcement--has now been removed from the California Governor's web-site. This raises obvious questions about whether someone there or elsewhere was troubled by publicizing the commitment to continue meetings on global warming into the future. Now, Julian rightly noted that a US state's interactions with foreign states raise both international and domestic legal issues. As a matter of international law, there are two threshold questions: do sub-state actors have the capacity to enter into treaties? as I've written elsewhere, as a matter of international law sub-state actors generally can conclude international agreements on matters over which they have competence, provided they have the authorization of the sovereign state of which they are a part and the consent of their treaty partner. Basically, international law permits sub-state actors to serve as agents for their sovereign state, with international legal responsibility resting with the sovereign state, not the sub-state actor. In 1981, for example, Canada authorized Quebec to conclude a social security agreement with the United States, and one would assume that Canada remains internationally responsible should Quebec fail to meet its obligations under that agreement. Thus, the interesting issue is whether Schwarzenegger had authority to do this? According to the Associated Press, the Governor's office admitted to not talking to Washington before going ahead with their announcement. Yesterday, however, the White House's Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) was reported to have suggested that this was a "wonderful amplification" of talks last year between the President and Blair. Such post-hoc acceptance of a sub-state actor's agreements is not unprecedented; nations states occasionally adopt their sub-state actor's commitments as their own rather than engage in internal power struggles about whether the sub-state actor had any authority in the first place. Even if California didn't have authorization from the federal government to conclude this text, however, there are also instances where sub-state actors have concluded unauthorized agreements that are treated as international agreements by foreign nations, provided the text meets the other criteria for constituting an international agreement. And what are the criteria for an international agreement? Article 2 of the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties defines a "treaty" as "an international agreement concluded between states in written form, and governed by international law, whether embodied in a single instrument or in two or more related instruments and whatever its particular designation." Here, the agreed version identifies two parties, the United Kingdom and California, on a matter of obvious significance--combating climate change. The text also contemplates specific commitments--sharing information and exchanging delegations-- where assessing compliance would be fairly straightforward. On the other hand, the form is not standard-- the text is unsigned, and it's labeled an "announcement" with a "mission statement" in lieu of a more traditional title (eg, agreement, pact, Memorandum of Understanding). From past experience, I'd think the federal government would likely read California's use of the verb "commit" by itself to reflect an intention to be legally bound. But, when combined with other verbs (eg, "commit to work to" do things), it likely reflects a statement of current political intention. As such, the text, at most suggests a binding agreement between the UK and CA to exchange delegations in the future to talk about these issues. Moreover, I'm pretty sure the UK would decline to categorize this text as legally binding by applying its own criteria to treaty-making. The UK generally views the verb "will" as connoting a political, viz. a legal, intention ("shall" is the verb employed by the UK to bind itself under international law). In contrast, the United States does not concede that using "will" always precludes a legal intention, preferring to examine texts in their entirety for evidence of legal intent. Still, I would bet Blair did not mean to legally obligate the UK to anything when he committed that the UK "will share best practices on emissions trading and lessons learned in Europe" or that it "will coordinate our energy sector efforts to switch to clean energy technologies." On the whole, therefore, notwithstanding contrary language, I believe this instrument would ultimately be considered a political commitment, rather than a legally binding instrument. Separate and apart from this international legal analysis, California may still face problems with this instrument as a matter of US law. enter into any Agreement or Compact with another state, or with a foreign Power." Justice Story himself wrestled with how to distinguish texts that would be absolutely prohibited versus those that might be permitted, subject to congressional approval, and no one since has come up with a satisfactory distinction. Moreover, US courts have gone on to suggest that any congressional consent can occur tacitly or post hoc. And, to complicate matters even further, many look to Supreme Court precedent on compacts among US states to suggest a third category of foreign compacts that don't require congressional consent at all, unless the agreement tends "to increase the political power in the states" and, in doing so, "encroach upon or interfere with the just supremacy of the United States." As a matter of US law, therefore, the question becomes whether this was a prohibited treaty? or (iii) something else that doesn't increase California's power vis--vis the federal government? The Associated Press reported that, according to Scharzenegger's spokesman, Adam Mendelsohn, this was "an agreement to share ideas and information. It is not a treaty," But, even if you accept that characterization, that still doesn't tell us whether this "agreement" might warrant congressional approval because it encroaches on federal supremacy. Indeed, it's not entirely clear that the Compact Clause even requires an "agreement" in the international law sense of the term. After all, whether or not California legally bound itself to share information and meet with UK officials on climate change, the ability of the United States to speak with one voice on climate change is undoubtedly altered by this instrument. 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