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2006/9/26-27 [Transportation/Car/RoadHogs, Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:44540 Activity:kinda low
9/26    CA legislature: "Do as I say, not as I do."
        http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/09/26/CARS.TMP
        \_ "I would admit that I should get a better mileage car," Chan said.
           "But I mainly looked at the crash-test factors. I drive every day
           from Oakland to Sacramento, and I see these horrific accidents on
           I-80."
           \_ Argh.  I wish they'd roll accident _avoidance_ into crash safety
              numbers.
        \_ Who cares what they drive? I'm surprised more of them are not
           driving far more expensive cars (like MBs).
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Email This Article (09-26) 04:00 PDT Sacramento -- Despite their outspoken support for landmark legislation to fight global warming, Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and some of the leading Democratic lawmakers who voted for the measure still use gas-guzzling vehicles for official state business. The global warming bill's co-author, Assembly Speaker Fabian Nez, D-Los Angeles, travels in a state-leased 2003 Ford Explorer that gets about 14 mpg in the city and 20 mpg on the highway. Two other lawmakers who voted for the legislation, Assemblyman Dario Frommer, D-Glendale, and Assemblywoman Rebecca Cohn, D-Saratoga, drive Jeep Grand Cherokees, which the US Department of Energy has noted is the least fuel-efficient SUV in its class at 16 mpg in the city and 21 mpg on the highway. 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