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2006/9/19-22 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:44454 Activity:low
9/19    Reality sinks in: We've lost the fucking war in Iraq
        http://www.tompaine.com/print/iraqs_reality_sinks_in.php
        \_ notice we don't talk about "progress" we made in Iraq?
        \_ I'm glad people like you didn't exist back in 40's and 50's
           - your impudent impatience is at the height of ignorance.
           - your impudent impatience is at the fucking height of ignorance.
           How many countries have you built?
           \_ Too bad assholes like you weren't in charge in the 70's, we might
           \_ Too bad assholes like you weren't in charge in the fucking 70's, we might
              still be getting our asses kicked in vietnam today.
           \_ Bad troll, no biscuit.
                \_ He does have a point, Truman did a shitty job fighting the
                   insurgencies in Germany and Japan.
                   \_ Nah, he's just spewing invective and ad hominem.  An
                      honest assessment of Iraq from available information is
                      that we are screwed, and things are only getting worse.
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Iraq's Reality Sinks In Robert Dreyfuss September 08, 2006 Robert Dreyfuss is the author of Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam (Henry Holt/Metropolitan Books, 2005). He is a contributing editor at The Nation, a contributing writer at Mother Jones, a senior correspondent for The American Prospect, and a frequent contributor to Rolling Stone. President Bush strutted confidently last year in advance of the December Iraqi elections, brashly predicting that US victory is just around the corner. Then, in the spring, after the bombing of the Golden Dome in Samarra, the president shifted to a kind of gritted-teeth forced optimism as the shaky government of Prime Minister Maliki took shape amid intensifying sectarian violence. Now, as Iraqi deaths mount at the rate of 3,000 per month, Bush has all but abandoned talk of victory and is reduced to issuing scary pronouncements about what failure in Iraq would mean. 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