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2006/9/19-22 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:44451 Activity:nil
9/19    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14906805
        Energy price drops. Are left wing environmentally nutcase
        liburals unhappy about this?
        \_ isn't sustainable.  all big supplies of oil are under countries
           that hate us or are ruled by short sighted cretins.  all this
           iran and venezuela crap isn't helping.  i think getting away
           from using so much oil is an idea left wingers and right
           wingers can agree on.
        \_ Well, I'm sure rightwing nutcase oil barrons from oil producing
           states as well as their allies in America's terror-supporting
           enemy countries are unhappy about it.
        \_ I'm a right-wing nutcase who is unhappy about this.  We need to get
           the oil monkey off our backs, and a consistent rise in oil prices
           would help that.  Considering that was happening and the economy was
           the fucking oil monkey off our backs, and a consistent rise in oil prices
           would help that.  Considering that was happening and the fucking economy was
           holding, I've been rooting for us to work on oil alternatives.
           -emarkp
           \_ Seconded.
        \_ I'm a left wing enviornmentalist liberal and I'm unhappy because
           I'm also a hypocrite and own oil stocks.
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As the central bank's inflation fighters meet Wednesday to set interest rates, they'll get some major breathing room from the recent plunge in oil and gasoline prices. That's one reason that, after two years of steady rate increases, the Fed is expected to continue the "steady-as-she-goes" rate policy it adopted in August after two years of steady increases. With oil prices down 20 percent since mid-July and pump prices down 15 percent and falling, fears have rapidly dissipated that high energy prices could touch off another 1970s-style round of inflation. If the recent drop in energy prices holds, Fed watchers say interest rates have likely peaked for now. "It gives the Fed more reason to stand pat (on rates) beyond the September meeting into the meetings in the final three months of the year," said Stuart Hoffman, chief economist at PNC Financial. The government reported fresh evidence of slowing inflation Tuesday. Prices at the wholesale level edged up just 01 percent in August. The drop in gasoline helped offset a jump in food costs. And the "core" wholesale inflation rate - which excludes food and energy prices because they bounce around so much - fell by 04 percent after a 03 percent drop in July. A report last week showed that inflation at the consumer level was up just 02 percent in August. In a separate report, the Commerce Department reported Tuesday that the housing market continues to slow down. Construction of new homes fell 6 percent in August, a much bigger decline than analysts had been expecting. Building permits hit their lowest level in nearly four years, a sign that the slowdown will continue in the months ahead. Saving billions at the pump With energy prices falling, consumers are getting immediate inflation relief at the pump. In some parts of the country, pump prices have fallen back through the $2-a-gallon mark. That means consumers have saved billions of dollars from falling pump prices in the past month. A sustained drop in energy prices could also take price pressure off airlines, shippers and other transportation companies that have been passing along their higher fuel costs to consumers. The slowing housing market is also helping to cool inflation. "With the housing sector now in a recession, with the inflation scare largely over, there's no reason at all for the Fed to raise rates," Morgan Stanley chief economist Stephen Roach told CNBC Monday. "They'll certainly stand pat and they'll continue to do that, and I think there's good chance they'll be talking about easing (rates) in early '07." That's the view of about half the 22 Wall Street banks surveyed Monday by Dow Jones. Twenty of them expect the Federal Open Market Committee, which sets shorter-term rates, to hold rates steady at 525 percent at Wednesday's meeting. Last month, the FOMC ended a two-year round of rate increases that raised the federal funds rate from a low of 1 percent. In fact, a long-term drop in energy prices might even make it harder for the Fed to cut rates, according to Scott Brown, chief economist at Raymond James & Assoc. "If gas prices continue down, consumer spending is likely to pick up even more," he said. After years of price-cutting made possible by lower manufacturing costs overseas, prices of imported goods have begun rising - thanks to a drop in the value of the dollar. "Import prices were falling from 1995 to 2001 and early 2002," said David Huether, chief economist at the National Association of Manufacturers. "When the dollar started coming down, within a quarter or so you saw prices of imports start to pick up. Even if energy prices remain at lower levels - and that's a big "if" - the folks at the Fed pay closest attention to the so-called "core" inflation rate - the statistic that excludes food and energy prices because they are subject to big, sudden ups and downs. "(Core) inflation is already above the top of the Fed's target," said Hoffman. But it's not like it's been is at the lower end of the range and is starting to accelerate. It's already gone through the presumed 20 to 25 percent threshold."