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2006/9/15-19 [Academia/Berkeley] UID:44389 Activity:nil
9/15    Posh dorms, yay! In Berkeley? MOOOOOO! When pigs fly. -i hate ucb
        http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/09/14/college.posh.life.ap
        \_ DePaul University?  Uhhh, right.  With a good education (i.e.
           Berkeley and not some posh joker school), you can *earn* money
           and *buy* a good life, rather than living high for four years on
           debt, then working at WalMart.
           \_ Bentonville, Arkansas, the site of WalMart's headquarters, has
              more millionaires per capita than any other city in the nation
              (and the planet).
           \_ Pretty sure if mommy & daddy send you off to school in a limo
              you won't end up working at WalMart, no matter how crappy your
              school is.
              \_ First of all, I think many of the kids at these rip-off
                 schools have parents who can't afford them, but pay for it
                 on debt because they think they have to.  And yes, those
                 kids are likely to get hosed, and end up at walmart or
                 25k/yr white collar hell.  Second of all, I now live in a
                 town full of trust fund parasites, and I wouldn't trade
                 my life as a tech person who actually has something to work
                 on that I give a shit about for theirs for any amount of
                 money.  Third of all, if you're really in the super-rich
                 class, and have no intention of seriously working, why
                 go to some shitty college at all?  Why not go windsurf and
                 screw hot chicks all year round?
                 \_ DUH because it's easier to meet hot chicks in school.
                    \_ Just not in Berkeley because they are all butt-ugly
                       and hairy here.
        \_ Remember kids, captitalism is bad!
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Most Popular Posh dorms, amenities becoming the norm at college Adjust font size: Decrease font Decrease font Enlarge font Enlarge font CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Somewhere along the way, college life has gotten a whole lot more posh. On a number of campuses, students are able to hire personal maids to clean and do their laundry. They pay moving crews to pack and transport their stuff -- plasma TVs and other high-end electronics included. And they're living large in housing that looks like anything but a dorm. "' says Niki Pochopien, a 21-year-old senior who just moved into swanky new living quarters for students at DePaul University in Chicago. Known as Loft-Right, the mod-looking structure has all the amenities: expansive city views, granite countertops in the kitchen and bathrooms, modern designer furniture and satellite TV hookups. The lobby lounge -- like something out of a hip hotel -- has a pool table and fireplace, and soon will have a Starbucks and tanning and hair salons next door. Students at Loft-Right each pay more than $1,000 a month for a private bedroom in a two- or four-bedroom unit, with bathrooms shared by no more than two people. "It dovetails with their vision of what it is to be a grown-up," says Robert Bronstein, a student housing consultant and president of the Scion Group, which manages the building and university-affiliated residences in other states. Upscale housing and other perks also fit with some parents' expectations, especially those whose children attend the priciest private schools. "It makes the $40,000 tuition worth it," says Brian Altomare, the 25-year-old president and founder of Madpackers, a Manhattan-based moving company for students. This fall, his company added one-off limousine rides so student customers can arrive at school "like a rock star." The company also plans to offer grocery delivery and cleaning and laundry services -- something other companies, such as Valet Today and DormAid, already do. At East Coast schools, DormAid charges $60 for a two-hour room clean and about $40 to wash and fold three bags of laundry. Madpackers' rates start at $289 for an in-state move, with extra charges for packing services and supplies and the limo trips. Students who take advantage of the perks tend to shrug off comments from college alumni who scoff at the pampering they never had. "Going to school today and living as a young adult in this world is completely different than when they grew up. What could be looked at as spoiled for them, is not necessarily spoiled for us," says Josh Hoffman, a 19-year-old sophomore in New York University's jazz performance program. "I just feel like we have so much, with technology and computers. Loss of communal living Many students say housing amenities, in particular, play a big role when deciding which school to attend. That worries some education watchdogs, who believe the focus on living the good life is driving up the already burdensome cost of college -- and causing some students to ask for more grants and rack up more debt than they normally would. "Students and school employees are living in increasing luxury while taxpayers are getting soaked," says Neal McCluskey, a policy analyst for the Center for Educational Freedom at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. Still others think there's something to be said for basic communal living, especially for underclassmen. "The traditional college dormitory with two students to a room and a bathroom and common room down the hall is a pretty good way of getting students out of their rooms and away from their computers," says Tom Kepple, president of Juniata College, a liberal arts school in Huntingdon, Pennsylvania. "In this environment, it's pretty hard to avoid getting to know your fellow students and how to live in a community." "It's a crash course in conflict resolution," says Renita Young, a 20-year-old senior at DePaul who started off in a cramped dorm and only recently moved to Loft-Right. That said, many residents in her building are freshmen and sophomores -- which Bronstein, the developer, takes as a sign of increasing demand. Now he's ready to move on to his next project: a "Club Med for students" at Illinois State University that will have outdoor volleyball and hot tubs, as well as plasma TVs in every unit. "Nobody's going to build a new building with community bathrooms. Sarah English, director of housing and residential life at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, also believes universities have no choice but to upgrade housing. Her school recently added upscale townhouses for students. But even she drew the line when she heard officials at some colleges were replacing standard-issue twin mattresses -- long a rite of passage in dorm life -- with full-sized beds. Killer E coli outbreak spreads Federal health officials worked Friday to find the source of a multistate E coli outbreak and warned consumers that even washing the suspect spinach won't ...