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2006/9/14-16 [Computer/SW/Languages/Python, Computer/SW/Languages/Perl, Computer/SW/Languages/C_Cplusplus] UID:44378 Activity:kinda low
9/14    http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2006/09/14/basic
        I never knew C++ was a higher-level language than BASIC
        \_ It's salon.  So what?
           \_ More specifically, it's David Brin, who writes decent hard sci-fi.
              Too bad he apparently didn't get a decent computer education
              either.
           \_ More specifically, it's David Brin, who writes decent hard
              sci-fi.  Too bad he apparently didn't get a decent computer
              education either.  [formatd]
              \_ Still doesn't bother me.  He's a fiction writer, not a
                 scientist.
                 \_ A friend of mine was in a technology-related tv show
                    with David Brin, and reports that he's pretty
                    technically naive / clueless.  I do like his books,
                    though.  - niloc
                 \_ It doesn't bother you that he's saying "the problem with
                    doing X w.r.t educating our children is that <incorrect
                    fact>"?
                    \_ Not at all.  It's a slate article online, not an
                       official publication from anyone who has anything to do
                       with education.  I give it the weight it deserves: zero.
        \_ I once read an article by a tech analyst which said the internet was
           invented in year 1991.
           \_ Wow that guy is a total idiot.  Everyone knows it was the year
              1991 when they invented the 1nt@rw3b!1.
        \_ Quick, someone tell that man about ruby/python/scheme/whathaveyou
           \_ He already discarded Perl as "too high level"  He doesn't seem
              to understand that crappy != "low-level"
              \_ He mentions Python os well, and calls C++ "high-level."
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