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9/9 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_mo/people_brad_pitt "Angie and I will consider tying the knot when everyone else in the country who wants to be married is legally able," Go Brad! I and my sister will forever be grateful. \_ "My sister and I"... didn't you learn anything in school? \_ I am a self-centered redneck. \_ I was not aware of any rule stronger than custom for saying "my sister and I" rather than "I and my sister". Given the symmetry of the "and" idea, it would not seem to matter grammatically or syntactically. I would have classified his phrase as uncommon but not incorrect. \_ Strunk & White. "XYZ and I" is correct. "I and XYZ" is incorrect. It hurts my ears to read "I and XYZ". \_ how about "myself and XYZ..." does it hurt your year equally as much? \_ "myself" is obviously incorrect in that context. -tom \- The "-self" pronouns are generally REFLEXIVE pronouns. These are used when the object "loops" back to the subject. For example, one would write "The Asp touched Brain@soda" one would write "The Asp touched brain@soda" or "The Asp touched him." But this has a different meaning from "The Asp touched himself." There is another use for -self which are called INTENSIVE pronouns which are a bit harder to explain. It's more a case of emphasis on your person ... like adding "personally". For example: "The Asp, himself, touched brain@soda." or "My sister, herself, will be forever grateful." = "My sister will personally be very grateful." Re: ordering of "I and x" vs "x and I" ... I think this is generally consdered "more polite" rather than be explained in terms of linguistic principles and grammar. So in some other languages, "I and x" may be just fine ... but of course the I vs me distinction would still exist [I'm inclinded to say the Bengali eqivalent of "I and X" is ok, but maybe somebody else can chime in about other langauges.] |
| news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060908/ap_en_mo/people_brad_pitt "Angie and I will consider tying the knot when everyone else in the country who wants to be married is legally able," the 42-year-old actor reveals in Esquire magazine's October issue, on newsstands Sept. In the article he reflects on "fifteen things I think everyone should know." Though Shiloh, the world-famous daughter of Pitt and girlfriend/earth mother Angelina Jolie, hogged much attention upon her birth in May, Pitt says he "cannot imagine life" without adopted children, Maddox, 5, and Zahara, 1 "They're as much of my blood as any natural born, and I'm theirs," says Pitt. Pitt, who plays a world traveler in the upcoming drama "Babel," subscribes to a laid-back parenting style. "If it's not hurting anyone, I want them to be able to explore. "I feel it's really important to have that time to sit and talk to them," he continues. And always give them a heads-up before you jerk them out of something. Official Virginia Travel Guide Order your free 2006 Virginia is For Lovers Travel Guide and receive an official Virginia Transportation Map Whatever you love in a vacation you can find in Virginia. Actor Brad Pitt smiles during a news conference in New Orleans on Aug. Pitt says he won't be marrying Angelina Jolie until the restrictions on who can marry whom are dropped. The 42-year-old actor reveals his plans for marriage in Esquire magazine's October issue, on newsstands Sept. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. |