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9/9 So is this offensive, to say that an ethnic group is "hot"?
I don't personally find it offensive, but maybe that is just
because I have been away from Cal for too long...
http://www.csua.org/u/gv2
\_ have you learn anything? uglieness is universal. no ethnic group
is "hotter" than another.
\_ maybe it's perfectly socially acceptable to say it somewhere in a
circle of friends, but this is not the sort of thing I expect to
hear from a Governor in a public speech.
\_ I don't think the original statements were made in public,
I think it was a private conversation that was picked up by
a mic. Not sure though.
\_ If you read the article, it specifically says he made the
the remarks "to his advisers behind closed doors".
\_ Arnie was affectionately referring to the chesty Puerto Rican Bonnie
Garcia when he said "very hot".
\_ Actually I realize he didn't mean hot, he meant hot-blooded,
which is kind of offensive. The quotes in the story don't
actually say that, but the story says that is what he meant.
I wonder if that is true or not.
\_ Fascinating--Garcia was interviewed by an LA radio host and she
thinks the story is silly (she calls herself a "hot-blooded Latina")
and mentioned that the Dems didn't allow her into the Latino caucus
since she's a Republican.
\_ State Treasurer Phil Angelides, who is challenging the governor for
re-election this year, issued a statement this morning saying
Schwarzenegger "has used language that is deeply offensive to all
Californians and embarrassed our state. His comments reflect a
disturbing pattern of behavior. The governor has a responsibility to
conduct himself with dignity."
Offensive to ALL CALIFORNIANS? Not to Garcia. Not to me.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-090806gov,1,7913754.story?coll=chi-news-hed
\_ All REAL Californians.
\_ That's Ka-lee-for-nyans to both of you sissy-boys.
\_ It's deeply offensive to all Californians who are deeply
offended.
\_ I'm offended that you're offended! --offended |
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| www.csua.org/u/gv2 -> www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/15470235.htm?source=yahoodist&content=sjm_news reprint or license this Governor apologizes for calling Cubans, Puerto Ricans "very hot" MICHAEL R BLOOD Associated Press California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Friday apologized for making statements in which he said Cubans and Puerto Ricans were naturally feisty and temperamental because of their combination of "black blood" and "Latino blood." Speaking to reporters in Santa Monica following a meeting with the California Chamber of Commerce, Schwarzenegger said the comments "made me cringe" when he read them in the Los Angeles Times, which published some of the recordings Friday. "Anyone out there that feels offended by those comments, I just want to say I'm sorry, I apologize," Schwarzenegger said. He added that if he heard his children make similar comments, "I would be upset." The statements were captured during a six-minute tape from a March 3 speechwriting session with Schwarzenegger and his advisers behind closed doors. On it, Schwarzenegger and Chief of Staff Susan Kennedy speak affectionately of Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia, R-Cathedral City, and speculate about her nationality. "I mean Cuban, Puerto-Rican, they are all very hot," the governor said on the recording. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it." Garcia, who is Puerto Rican and the legislature's only Latina Republican, appeared with Schwarzenegger on Friday and said she was not offended by the governor's comments. Garcia earlier had told the Times that she often calls herself a "hot-blooded Latina" to Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger also said he called leaders from ethnic groups who he said were not upset about the comments. "All of them understood it was an off-the-record conversation," said Schwarzenegger, who was running for re-election in November. Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally, chairman of the state's Legislative Black Caucus, said the governor called him Friday to apologize, but he stopped him. "I said look, if in fact this were a crime, Willie Brown would be in jail right now," Dymally said, laughing, referring to the sharp-tongued former San Francisco mayor and state legislator who led the Assembly for 14 years. Schwarzenegger's comments were met with mixed reaction in Sacramento on Friday. A spokesman for Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez, D-Los Angeles, declined to comment directly about the tape's comment but said the governor "has always been very respectful toward Latinos." However, Schwarzenegger's Democratic challenger, Phil Angelides, said the governor should "conduct himself with dignity." Schwarzenegger has used language that is deeply offensive to all Californians and embarrassed our state," Angelides said in a statement. The chairman of the California Democratic Party echoed Angelides' response, saying he was personally offended by Schwarzenegger's remarks. "I was offended and disturbed upon hearing that the governor had reverted to ethnic and racial stereotyping that we thought had ended in California," said Art Torres. Schwarzenegger Communications Director Adam Mendelsohn said the governor's office would not release the tape publicly because it was a private conversation. The recording is full of frank and comic assessments of fellow Republicans from Schwarzenegger and his staff. Kennedy, a Democrat who also worked for former governor Gray Davis, said Republican Assembly leader George Plescia of La Jolla looks like a startled deer, and the governor calls Republican legislators a "wild bunch" and a "unique, unruly group." Plescia declined to comment Friday morning, said his spokesman, Morgan Crinklaw. The remarks came as the governor was in negotiations with Republican lawmakers over his plan to place several bond issues on the November ballot. Schwarzenegger aides routinely tape his speechwriting sessions so the writers can keep a record of his thoughts and speaking patterns. The participants suggest during the meeting that they know they are being recorded. |
| www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-090806gov,1,7913754.story?coll=chi-news-hed Nation/World From the Los Angeles Times Governor Apologizes for Remarks About Latina Lawmaker Schwarzenegger's banter with aides offers glimpse of bull session behind closed doors. By Robert Salladay and Michael Finnegan Times Staff Writers Published September 8, 2006, 2:53 PM CDT Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today apologized for saying the lone Latina Republican lawmaker in California had a "very hot," fiery personality because of her ethnicity, a comment captured on audio tape last spring in his private office. The governor made his apology in Santa Monica standing next to Assemblywoman Bonnie Garcia (R-Cathedral City), the Latina lawmaker whom Schwarzenegger characterized as hot-blooded. story%3Flast_modi fied%3D9%2F8%2F06%202%3A53%3A45 "Anyone out there that feels offended by these comments, I just want to say I'm sorry," Schwarzenegger said. "The fact is that if I would hear this kind of comments in my house, by my kids, I would be upset, and today, when I read it in the papers, it's something when you say things, but it is another thing when you read it in the paper. And so this is why I thought I should come out and address the issue right away." On the recording, Schwarzenegger describes Republican legislators as the "wild bunch" and refers to Garcia, casually saying that "black blood" mixed with "Latino blood" equals "hot." "I mean, they are all very hot," the governor says on the audio recording. "They have the, you know, part of the black blood in them and part of the Latino blood in them that together makes it." Garcia said there was no need for Schwarzenegger to apologize. Schwarzenegger said he had called several Latino and African American community leaders to discuss his taped remarks with them, but did not name them. They understood the remarks were part of an "off-the record conversation, and it was not meant to be in any negative way," Schwarzenegger said. The six-minute recording, obtained by The Times, captures a meeting with some members of the governor's inner circle last spring. At the time, Schwarzenegger was struggling to persuade Republican lawmakers to embrace his plan to place a measure for billions of dollars in borrowing on the November ballot. Schwarzenegger occasionally records private meetings so that speechwriters, in particular, can keep a record of his thoughts and cadence. The audio recording obtained by The Times mainly consists of relaxed banter among Schwarzenegger and a few aides, and it offers an unusually candid look at his administration when the doors are closed. On the recording, Schwarzenegger's Democratic chief of staff, Susan Kennedy, says Assembly Republican leader George Plescia of San Diego resembles a startled deer. That draws a chuckle from the Republican governor, who a moment earlier had referred to Plescia's predecessor, Assemblyman Kevin McCarthy, as "Bakersfield boy." After mentioning Garcia, he goes on to recall a former weightlifter and competitor, Cuban-born Sergio Oliva. State Treasurer Phil Angelides, who is challenging the governor for re-election this year, issued a statement this morning saying Schwarzenegger "has used language that is deeply offensive to all Californians and embarrassed our state. The governor has a responsibility to conduct himself with dignity." Garcia, responding today to Angelides, dismissed his comments: "The only embarrassment in California today is Phil Angelides' sad and predictably partisan statement." On Thursday, Garcia and McCarthy called the conversation irrelevant, even funny. In an interview yesterday with The Times, Garcia said the conversation didn't bother her in the least. She called herself an "unpolished politician" and said Schwarzenegger had shown nothing but respect for her. "I love the governor because he is a straight talker just like I am," Garcia said. The meeting probably took place in the Ronald Reagan Cabinet Room, the governor's de facto office that adjoins his smaller official quarters. The conference room faces east toward lush Capitol Park and has a long conference table that serves as a giant desk. The sword from Schwarzenegger's movie "Conan the Barbarian" rests on a nearby table. Participants were Kennedy, who was Cabinet secretary under former Gov. Gary Delsohn, a former Sacramento Bee reporter and author who recently became Schwarzenegger's chief speechwriter; and Walter Von Huene, a former TV director who is a close friend of the governor. Von Huene, a fellow cigar smoker and chess partner of Schwarzenegger, also serves as an informal speech coach. When asked why the conversation was taped, Schwarzenegger said today it was "because I have a certain way of speaking" and because it allows his speechwriters to get the "texture" of his accent into speeches. "So I don't sound like any other politician speaking, I always sound like Arnold," he said. Subscriber Advantage Daywatch The day's top stories e-mailed to you each weekday. The Info Desk Exclusive access to Tribune experts for help with homework or research 365 Day Archive A free archive search of a year's worth of Chicago Tribune stories. The Entertainment Expert Advice for making the most of a special night out. This month's featured offers include: Subscriber Advantage members can enjoy special offers such as $20 in FREE GROCERIES from Peapod, and 10% OFF your next getaway through United Vacations. |