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9/1 No, Iran and N.Korea, You can't do this, only -benign- power like USA
is allow to test its nukes:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1728616.htm
May be USA should sign Nuclear Test Ban Treaty... May be we should
impose economic sanction on those who violates NPT... which is...
err... ourselves.
\_ Well, we are neither importing from nor exporting to ourselves.
\_ We should do whatever is in our national interest. Iran should do
whatever is in their national interest. Any nation that does not
do whatever is in their national interest will cease to be a nation
and will be replaced by one or more entities that do whatever is in
their own interest.
\_ but they are axis of evil and we are doing everything defend
democracy and human rights.
\_ thanks for trolling the thread today. the rest of us will
be having a discussion elsewhere that you're welcome to
contribute to.
\_ Acting in our interest does not necessarily translate into
acting against the interests of other nations; the overlap of
these interests is the basis of diplomacy.
\_ I didn't specify what "interest" meant. For example, a tiny
weak country may find it is in their interest to do whatever
their larger neighbor wants a la "Findlandization" during the
Soviet era. The Fins didn't like this policy but it was in
their interests to knuckle under to avoid invasion and out-
right take over. Had Finland told the Soviets to piss off
that would have not been in their national interest because
shortly after there wouldn't be a Finland.
\- in general, the two behaviours are called
"bandwagoning" vs. "balancing" [as in
"balance of power"]. BTW, if you are
interested in IR theory it is pretty
amazing how much you can learn from
Thucydides: History of the Peloponnesian War ...
given that it is a 2400 yr old story and "only"
involved a few greek city-states.
\_ Read it. Great stuff.
\_ Five countries are permitted under the NPT to possess nuclear
weapons, by virtue of their having nukes at the time they signed the
treaty. Notable countries w/nuke tech but w/o nuke weapons who have
signed: Japan, Iran. Notable countries which produced nukes at
signed: Japan, Iran. Notable countries which developed nukes at
a time when they were not NPT signatories: India, Pakistan, Israel.
Now guess which countries had nukes at the time they signed the NPT?
Iran. Now guess which countries had nukes at the time they signed
the NPT? |
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| www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200608/s1728616.htm Email this story Email Last Update: Thursday, August 31, 2006. The US Government says the tests are necessary to ensure the safety of nuclear stockpiles. US carries out subcritical nuclear test The United States says it has carried out a subcritical nuclear experiment successfully at an underground test site in Nevada - the 23rd such test since 1997. The test came amid intensifying US-led international efforts to press North Korea and Iran to abandon their nuclear programs. It was the 10th test under the administration of President George W Bush, despite persistent criticism by anti-nuclear groups. Many activists and experts argue that the tests undermine the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty on nuclear weapons and that the Bush administration is carrying them out to use them to boost its efforts to develop new nuclear arms. The US Government maintains the subcritical tests do not violate the treaty because they do not involve a nuclear chain reaction and are necessary to ensure the safety of nuclear stockpiles. It also insists they are fully consistent with nuclear test moratorium it has maintained since 1992. "The Los Alamos National Laboratory conducted the experiment to gather scientific data that provides crucial information to maintain the safety and reliability of the nation's nuclear weapons without having to conduct underground nuclear tests," the department's National Nuclear Security Administration said in a statement. The administration said the subcritical tests do not involve nuclear explosion because they are designed to "examine the behaviour of plutonium as it is strongly shocked by forces produced by chemical high explosives". "No critical mass is formed and no self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction can occur," it said. Privacy Policy This service may include material from Agence France-Presse (AFP), APTN, Reuters, CNN and the BBC World Service which is copyright and cannot be reproduced. |