8/9     Annoyed at ValPak's junk mail in your mail box? Now you can request
        to be taken off online! This is similar to a previous post on
        Advo's mailing list, but it is another company. Save the earth,
        save the tree, and screw all junk mail companies now! It takes about
        2-3 months but hopefully it'll work: "Valpak is mailed to 45 million
        households in North America each month. Due to the extensive lead
        times needed to produce and mail Valpak, you may receive additional
        mailings over the next two or three months until your address is
        removed from our mailing lists."
        http://www.coxtarget.com/mailsuppression/s/DisplayMailSuppressionForm
        \_ I don't care about ValPak. How do I stop my local grocery stores
           and those Pennysaver things? The fucking Post Office should be
           forced to obey a "no bulk mail" list.
        \_ You have to give your email address in order to unsubscribe from
           their snail junk mail?  I don't have a good feeling about it -tien
           \_ I gave them my junk hotmail email address that I never use.
              \_ Why would they require it at the first place?  Maybe I am
                 pananoid but I am just not convinced that this page does
                 what it claims to do. -tien
        \_ Yes. Every tree-hugging American can stop Valpak and save the
           earth! Every little bit helps!     Delusional crack-heads.
           The Earth is doomed so long as humans exist. Period. The only
           enviromentally-friendly move you can make is the one no beatnik
           voluntarily does - commit suicide or at least get neutered.
           \_ Suppose that you're an Orc, who lives in Mordor, and you hate
              trees and all green growing things, and you want to Middle Earth
              burn under a thousand years' of sooty flame.  Wouldn't junk
              mail still piss you off?  Wouldn't it bother you just a tiny
              bit when that big envelope you're hoping is a promotion from
              the Dark Lord turns out to be another ad?
           \_ Sure let's all drive SUVs and reproduce 8-12 kids a family.
              While you're at it why don't we all smoke and drink till we
              die early so that we will stop polluting the earth. Hell
              why not drop the bomb that we'll all stop polluting. Fuck
              the earth. Whatever, you fuck tard.
           \_ Not making more Americans is probably the most environmentally
              conscious thing someone can do in this country.
              \_ explain that to the Republicans who over-reproduce the
                 Democrats by almost 2 to 1
              \- i came across this interesting [assuming true] statistic:
                    We use about one-sixth of our electricity to cool
                    ourselves. That's more than the total electricity
                    consumption of India ...
                 \_ So what?  The only bad thing about it is that we're spewing
                    hazardous byproducts.  If we can just figure out how to
                    produce the energy in a manner which is only hazardous to
                    ourselves, there's no problem.  Clean production is a much
                    bigger long-term win than conservation.
                    \_ One could even argue that the SUV driving republican
                       morons are actually helping develop clean production,
                       since they'll raise the profitability of sustainable
                       production by bringing the crisis on sooner.
                       \_ One could argue that, but one would sound like a
                          complete idiot.  -tom
                          \_ Hypothetically, if one were to sound like a
                             complete idiot, one would have come to the
                             right place posting one's arguement on the CSUA
                             motd.
              \_ its not really an issue of not making more americans -- US
                 population growth would be stagnant if not for the immigrants
                 (thats another story).  The real huge problem is all the other
                 countries who are trying to be like americans.  The
                 modernization of the third world and all.
                 \_ Hence the need to kill everyone. But no one wants to
                    start with themselves. Yes, you'll say why don't I.
                    But I'm not a hippie-commie. I'm damn glad to be popping
                    out as many kids as I can.
                    \_ thats no solution. The people who are willing to kill
                        themselves die, leaving the problem people behind to
                        reproduce at will and muck things up.  You have to
                        kill yourself in the process of killing many others.
                        \_ Durka Durka Eco-Jihad!
                        \_ Knowing this, you should not kill yourself. The
                           problem people reproduce much faster than you can
                           destroy them. Eventually their police-state
                           apparatus will eliminate you in your work.
                           Our best hope is a biological superweapon a la
                           12 Monkeys. Our research is promising my brothers.
                           \_ Or you can sit in your windowless basement room
                              with the lights off watching 12 Monkeys until
                              you no longer care.
                   \_ Immigration & the modernization of other countries are
                      not things I have direct control over.  Not knocking
                      someone up is something I have direct control over.
        \_ I like ValPak.  -proud American