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2006/7/28-8/1 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:43832 Activity:nil
7/28    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-2290713,00.html
        Security Council agrees on UN resolution that gives Iran until end of
        next month to halt enrichment, and if they don't, they'll get another
        chance to comply, and if they don't, there may be sanctions ... or not
        (which, if actually implemented, will probably hurt the U.S and help
        China and Russia anyway).  Morons.  We need a new, robust NPT that
        restricts peaceful enrichment to select sites and makes guarantees on
        availability to those who aren't enriching.  At least we're not
        bombing - our troops will be the first to pay in case that happens.
        \_ A new, robust NPT that will exempt the U.S., you mean.
           \_ what part of "makes guarantees on availability to those who
              aren't enriching" is hard to understand?
        \_ err... US is a violator of NPT, right?  and you know Iran can
                        \_ since when?
           easily withdraw from NPT and everything will be legal, right?
                        \_ true.
           do you know US already have an economic sanction in place against
                        \_ true.
           Iran so any UN sanction is not going to hurt US, while UN sanction
                        \_ true.
           is going to hurt Russia/China and rest of the world who has huge
           bilateral ecnomic tie to Iran, right?
                        \_ true but how smart is it to let a country like
                           iran have nukes?  Russia and China both have serious
                           problems with Muslim terrorists.  Maybe next time
                           it won't be a Russian movie theatre but the whole
                           city.  Not now.  Not in five years.  But ten?  What
                           about 20 years from now?  30?
           \_ do you know what "sloppy sanctions" are?  China and Russia
              won't give in to real sanctions.  Trust me, any sanctions
              Iranian oil will get out in one way or the other.
           \_ Trust me, with "sanctions" applied, Iranian oil will get out
              in one way or the other.  Let's say the oil isn't available
              to Western markets.  Let's say China and Iran are getting all
              to Western markets.  Let's say China and Russia are getting all
              the oil then.  Then who is hurt MORE by UN sanctions on Iran?
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The Times Audio Digest Middle East The Times July 29, 2006 UN council agrees Iran resolution The five permanent members of the UN Security Council reached a deal yesterday on a resolution that would give Iran until the end of next month to suspend uranium enrichment or face the threat of sanctions. The latest draft is weaker than an initial proposal from Britain, France and Germany, with US backing. Although the earlier version would have made the threat of sanctions immediate if Iran did not comply, the new draft would essentially give Iran another chance to come around. That was a victory for Russia and China, arguing that the resolution was not an ultimatum but a new request for Iran to accept a deal that would give it various incentives if it suspended uranium enrichment and reprocessing. "There are no sanctions introduced on Iran in the draft resolution that we are finalising," Vitali Churkin, the Russian Ambassador to the UN, said. He emphasised that work on the resolution was not finished. John Bolton, the US Ambassador to the UN, portrayed the draft as a much tougher statement than Mr Churkin did, pointing out the eventual threat of sanctions.