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2006/7/19-20 [Transportation/Car, Transportation/Bicycle] UID:43727 Activity:nil
7/19    My wheel says it is 622-13c, but my tire says 700-23c. Shouldn't
        they fit? Did the previous owner fuck up the tire fit?
        \_ http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html
           It should fit.  Bike tire sizing is a mess.  -tom
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www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html
WTB's Global Measuring System image Which Size Tire Fits Which Size Rim? To make matters worse, in the early days of cycling, every country that manufactured bicycles developed its own system of marking the sizes. These different national sizing schemes created a situation in which the same size tire would be known by different numbers in different countries. Even worse, different-sized tires that were not interchangeable with one another were often marked with the same numbers! Traditional Sizing Systems The traditional sizing systems are based on a measurement of the outside diameter of a tire. Unfortunately, evolution of tires and rims has made these measurements lose contact with reality. Here's how it works: Let's start with the 26 x 2125 size that became popular on heavyweight "balloon tire" bikes in the late '30's and still remains common on "beach cruiser" bikes. This size tire is very close to 26 inches in actual diameter. 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Schwinn Juvenile 12 1/2 x anything 203 mm Juvenile, scooters 10 x 2 152 mm Wheelchair 8 x 1 1/4 137 mm Wheelchair Traditionally, fractional sizes are made for straight-sided rims. High-performance sizes (571 mm /26 x 1 & 630 mm /27") have evolved toward hook-edged rims. recumbents image French sizes: In the French system, the first number is the nominal diameter in mm, followed by a letter code for the width: "A" is narrow, "D" is wide. The letter codes no longer correspond to the tire width, since narrow tires are often made for rim sizes that originally took wide tires; for example, 700 C was originally a wide size, but now is available in very narrow widths, with actual diameters as small as 660 mm. French Size ISO Applications 700 C 622 mm Road bikes, hybrids. John Allen for Sutherland's Handbook For Bicycle Mechanics, the bible of bicycle technology. Sutherland's has a more detailed, more thorough version of this chart. Width Considerations Although you can use practically any tire/rim combination that shares the same bead seat diameter, it is unwise to use widely disparate sizes. If you use a very narrow tire on a wide rim, you risk pinch flats and rim damage from road hazards. If you use a very wide tire on a narrow rim, you risk sidewall or rim failure. This combination causes very sloppy handling at low speeds. Unfortunately, current mountain-bike fashion pushes the edge of this. In the interest of weight saving, most current mountain bikes have excessively narrow rims. but that defeats the purpose of wide tires, and puts undue stress on the rim sidewalls. WTB Website: image GMS Global Measuring System The current industry standard for specifying the actual inflated size of a bicycle tire does not account for subtle variation in tread and casing size. 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