7/17    If Chinese immigrants live everywhere in the world, why don't they
        live near the coastline? For example, Fremont is full of Chinese
        people and it's far away from the coast. Ditto with Monterey Park
        and Alhambra. Why don't they live near say, Noe Valley, Pacific
        Heights, Seacliff, and Marina? Why don't they live in West LA?
        All of these areas are along the coast, and are predominanatly white.
        Do Chinese people in general not like living near the ocean?
                                                -Chinese and curious
        \_ I'm sorry to say this bitterly but in reality, it's
           because the whities control the best real estates. For
           hundreds of years they suppressed the minorities and took up all
           because the whities control the best real estates. For hundreds of
           thousands of years they suppressed the minorities and took up all
           the good land and left the Indians, blacks, and latinos
           shitty land. Case in point, when the Japanese were too successful,
           the whities took away their properties and put them into
           internment camps. Do you remember the Euclid co-op on
           1777 Euclid? It used to be owned by Japanese students until
           the whities took it away from them. It's all about power and
           control, and the whities have both.
           \_ Perhaps the whities own all the good land because they have a
              solid work ethic and sharp minds with good educations -- whereas
              all the little non-whities like yourself are lazy, uneducated,
              greedy second-class citizens that can't even learn english.
              God rewards those who work for their rewards, and he punishes
              greedy, lazy, uneducated non-whities like yourself.  I may
              not be a minority, but at least I can speak english.
           \_ "The whities" do not control all the good land.  A very small
              power elite controls all the good land, as it does everywhere.
              In the U.S., that small power elite is mostly(but not entirely)
              white.  I'm reminded of the old joke about the jew in tsarist
              russia who says he always reads the anti-semitic newspaper because
              it's all good news: it says he controls the banks, the land,
              the government, etc. when in fact he's a poor peasant like
              everyone else.  All the good land everywhere is being bought up
              by rich speculators, squeezing out those of us who work for a
              living. The fact that most of the speculator class is white
              does not make this a race issue.
              \_ No, no -- the whities do because they're clearly superior
                 than their mentally disadvantaged little cousins.
        \_  it's because being near chinese grocery stores seems to be the
            being outdoors, so the higher cost of coastal living isn't
            justified, since chinese people like money.
                \_ Which race/ethnicity doesn't like money?
                   \_ Why is this even a race based question?  Can't there be
                      individuals of every background who have their own
                      personal belief systems?
                      \_ Exactly my point.  -- PP
        \_ They buy moderately priced real estate where there is an existing
           Chinese community they can buy Chinese groceries at?
        \_ The Richmond and Sunset Districts in SF have a lot of Chinese
           residents.  Both are coastline districts.
        \_ Is it a feng shui thing? I know that Chinese like San Marino
           because of wide, straight streets. Beach towns don't usually
           have that.
        \_ San Francisco?  Boston?  Hong Kong?
           \_ I thought it's because of their lack of driving ability
        \_ San Francisco?  Boston?
        \_ Everything is determined by price. If Chinese immigrants
           are rich, then they will buy up all the coast-line
           properties and China Town will not be where it is today.
           Most are not, so they settle for something in between. It's
           like asking, how come the black people lives in shit place
           like New Orleans?  How come they don't buy up the
           coast-line properties?
           \_ What's weird is that in the SF neighborhood where I grew up
              (Miraloma, attached houses, nothing special), several
              Chinese families bought houses, built huge in-laws and
              extra stories, and moved in.  Judging by their cars, most of
              them were loaded and could have afforded nice places in way
              more upscale parts of town.  I never figured that out.  -John
              \_ Don't judge wealth by cars.
        \_ "How come engineers/geeks don't like pretty girls? Why do
           they always go for the below average ones? Do geeks in
           general not like cute/sexy/pretty girls?"