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2006/7/17-19 [Reference/History/WW2/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Germany] UID:43684 Activity:nil
7/17    Dutch to allow pedophile political party
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5187010.stm
        \_ Hmm, what's The Netherland's immigration policy for Americans?
           \_ ew.
        \_ So what?  Democracy isn't something you should be afraid of.
           \_ Having a pedophile party isn't democracy.  It is the
              institutionalizing of criminally aberrant behavior.
              \_ Only if anyone votes for them...  As soon as you say "some laws
                 shouldn't be democratically decided, ever" then you have to
                 have someone who _doesn't_ represent the people create them,
                 and that's trouble.  Of course pedophilia is abhorrent, this
                 isn't institutionalizing anything.  The US has a pot party,
                 that hasn't made pot legal.
                 \_ The US has a pot party.  The US also is leaning towards
                    making pot legal and has done so locally in many places.
                    Without a group pushing for the decriminalisation of
                    criminal acts, they will remain criminal.  With a group
                    pushing for legalising the acts, they will eventually
                    shift policy in that direction through back room bargaining
                    and vote swapping.  The only hope is that they never manage
                    to elect anyone.  Although if they do that alone says
                    the host country that they may be beyond hope anyway.
                 \_ Can the same argument be applied to communism?  A communist
                    party is illegal in the US.
                    \_ *sigh* http://www.cpusa.org
                       \_ Thanks!  (Not that I like communism.)  -- PP
                       \_ http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/511/#question18
                          "Aren't socialist countries anti-religion?"
                          "In China, ..., there are many religious
                          institutions, many millions who worship freely, many
                          churches that are growing. ..."
                          That says it all.  (But it's off topic.)
                    \_ Really?  I thought there was one.  Well, if that's true,
                       it probably happened during the 50's, the same time we
                       put God into the pledge, and did any number of other
                       stupid reactionary things.
                    \_ Uhh, no it isn't.
                    \_ IIRC, the United States is now one of the few countries
                       that still has a communist party.  We might be the only
                       multi-party country that has one.  I vaguely recall
                       something about all of them renaming themselves the
                       socialist party after the USSR fell but I'm too lazy
                       and apathetic to look it up.
                       \_ Japan still has a communist party. One of the Diet
                          reps from Kochi (the prefecture where I lived) was
                          Communist. --erikred
                       \_ PCI in Italy? Partito Comunista Italiano. Still
                          pretty big there.
                          \_ Ok so 3 of em.  I'm ok with that.
                             \_ Plus all the actual, well, communist countries,
                                plus France, England, Germany, India, and
                                pretty much every other countri I can
                                pretty much every other country I can
                                think of.  -John
                                \_ The communist countries aren't multi-party.
                                   I don't count Cuba, China, etc, which claim
                                   to be communist but are just dictatorships.
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Printable version Dutch will allow paedophile group A Dutch court has turned down a request to ban a political party with a paedophile agenda. Judge HFM Hofhuis ruled that the Brotherly Love, Freedom and Diversity Party (PNVD) had the same right to exist as any other political party. The PNVD was formed by three paedophiles in May, prompting outrage in Dutch society. It seeks to lower the age of sexual consent from 16 to 12 and legalise child pornography and sex with animals. including the freedom to set up a political party can be seen as the basis for a democratic society," Judge Hofhuis said in the ruling, according to the Associated Press news agency. "It is the right of the voter to judge the appeal of political parties," he said. The ruling also noted that the party had not committed a crime. PNVD's opponents had sought the ban, arguing that children had the right not to be confronted with the party's platform. Taboos The PNVD - which has only three known members - says its aim is to break taboos and fight intolerance. It says it wants paedophilia to be freely discussed, arguing that a ban just makes children curious. They claim the subject has been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in Belgium. They also want to break the "negative" stigma surrounding paedophilia by getting into parliament. It also wants children from the age of 12 to be able to vote. It promotes the legalisation of hard and soft drugs and free train travel for all. In order to take part in elections set for 22 November, the PNVD needs to submit a list of candidates and signatures of at least 30 supporters.
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Marxism, the Communist Party USA, its history, and the world Communist movement are complex subjects. No short answer to any of these questions can be entirely satisfactory. These FAQs are meant to provide a quick introduction to the CPUSA, its basic policies, and a Marxist viewpoint on current social issues. The Communist Party USA is an organization of revolutionaries working to bring about social change in a conscious, progressive direction. We understand the connection between working for democratic reforms and improvements in living standards today, and building a movement large enough and united enough to create revolutionary change and socialism in the future. We are a legal political party, which runs candidates, publishes a weekly newspaper and a monthly magazine. We organize contingents in most major demonstrations, support workers' struggles for decent wages and working conditions, and participate in many other ways in the political life of our country. We base ourselves on Marxism-Leninism, on the accumulated experience of our Party since our founding in 1919. Our view of the needs of our working class as a whole, and on our vision of Socialism USA is based on those experiences. We are rooted in our country's revolutionary history and our many struggles for full equality and democracy. We call for "Bill of Rights" socialism, guaranteeing full individual freedoms, except the "freedom" to exploit or oppress others. Our Party is a consistent fighter for the unity of our multiracial, multinational, male-female, young and old working class. Our unity must cross all lines of religion, region, and origin. It must encompass immigrants, both legal and undocumented, the unemployed and homeless. We fight to unite people on welfare, workers in all industries and of all income levels, workers in every region of the country. The fight to build the broadest possible unity is our main contribution to today's struggles. Though still very small, we are a tenacious Party with a long, proud history. Our history is steeled in struggles for peace, civil rights, union organizing, social justice, and democracy. Our over eighty years of struggle has taught us hard lessons about how to organize for change, about what works and what doesn't, about the essential needs for unity, for collectivity, for basing ourselves in reality, for never substituting our wishes for a sober estimate of where the working class and people of our country are at. Our strategy is to build the broadest possible anti-monopoly coalition. And work for progressive and democratic change, organize and give workers a sense of their own power, and work with millions who will learn the necessity of more fundamental change in the process of struggle. Our work is geared to winning the working class and all oppressed people to understand the need to replace capitalism with socialism. Our work is to replace the exploitative and undemocratic economic system of capitalism with a socialist society that places people's needs ahead of corporate greed. The capitalist system is set up to produce profits, not goods that people need, and to serve the interests of a tiny minority of the super-rich. This monopoly capitalist ruling class predominates in all major areas of society, including government and policy-making institutions. Issues are not decided on the basis of whether or not they will help the majority of the people, but on the basis of how they will affect the bottom line of finance capital and the major corporations. This includes policy and law in regards to the family, health, children, the environment, worker's rights, immigrant rights, etc. The Communist Party USA is in favor of socialized medicine, guaranteed retirement in the form of improved social security benefits, strengthened environmental protection, full funding of education, amnesty for immigrants, and democratization of all regulatory agencies. We are for a massive transfer of money from the "defense" budget into programs that serve the needs of the people of our country, and for an increase in the level of income at which one is exempt from Federal income tax. In the late 80s and early 90s, many countries that were socialist fell due to a combination of forces including capitalist economic pressure, popular unrest, mistakes and shortcomings. Since then, capitalism has been restored in most of those countries, resulting in a disastrous drop in the living standards and well being of the masses of people. People in many of the former socialist countries are now subjected to the most vicious, gangster capitalism, with rapidly declining health and life expectancy, and rapidly increasing unemployment, poverty, infant mortality, suicide, sexism, racism, and right-wing nationalism. There is still a worldwide movement of Communists, who are active in the struggles in their own countries, who apply Marxism to their conditions and according to the history of their countries, and who organize international solidarity. For example, the South African Communist Party played a significant role in the fight to end apartheid and plays an important role now in the labor and social justice movements in South Africa. For example, the Communist Party of Nepal helped lead the struggle to transform Nepal from a monarchy to a constitutional democracy and has played a leading role in the government. For example, the Communist Parties of Vietnam and Cuba, which are leading their countries and governments through times of difficult and complex economic transition. For example, the elected Communists who run the government of the states of Kerala and West Bengal in India. Some of the predictions by Marx and Engels didn't work out the way they expected--for example, the first socialist revolutions didn't take place in the most advanced industrial societies. Agrarian countries, where capitalism did not yet have a stranglehold on political power, were the first places where socialism came into existence. However, most of their predictions have proven to be true--the ever-increasing internationalization of capital, the ever-larger merger mania consolidating economic and political power in ever fewer hands, the inability of capitalism to avoid repetitive economic crises, the ever-growing gap between rich and poor, the insatiable drive of capitalists for more profits. Back to top Does the CPUSA believe in "conspiracy theories"? While politics and international events can't be explained as part of some single grand conspiracy, there are real conspiracies. The Nixon White House cover-up of Watergate, the Reagan White House cover-up of Irangate, and many more are examples of conspiracies. The three big conspiracy stories of the Bush Administration thus far, all interlinked, are the stealing of the election, the Enron scandal, and the speed and thoroughness of Bush's turn to the offensive after 9/11 on every front, moving to cram through legislation restricting or eliminating democratic rights. Even though Bush conspired against the US people to steal the elections in 2000, the CPUSA, rather than focusing on proving the conspiracy, participated and gave leadership to the mobilization of thousands who rallied against the theft. Our role is not to prove what goes on behind closed doors and hidden board rooms. Under capitalism there will always be conspiracies against the well-being of the people. The point is to fight against the repercussions these conspiracies, mobalize mass support for democratic change and fight for the immediate needs of the people, like healthcare, education, job security, a living wage and pensions. The only way to stop these types of conspiracies is to organize and fight for socialism. Back to top What are the CPUSA views on the environment? One of our main slogans is "People and Nature Before Profits." We are for developing policy that provides for a sustainable economy and a sustainable ecology. Where possible, we participate in environmental movements, and recognize and work on the environmental aspects of struggles on the shop floor and in unions. We oppose drilling in the Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge and we oppose the use of...