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2006/7/13-18 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:43654 Activity:nil
7/13    Regardless of who's right or wrong (good luck on that), predictions
        on the outcome of the Israelis hitting Lebanon?  -John
        \_ I think it will depend upon what Syria wants to do.  There is a
           part of me want Israel go after Syria.  Adding ecnomic sanction
           against Iran to the mix... let the hell break loose in that region.
        \_ I dunno, but this doesn't sound good:
           http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/13/mideast
           'Earlier, Israel's chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, told
           Israel's Channel 10, "If the soldiers are not returned, we
           will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years."'
        \_ It is clear that Iran is the provacoteur here and has
           been planning this for some time.
           \_ Israel has been very very stupid lately.  They need to learn
              that having a strong, functional government in Lebanon is
              actually better for Israel as a nation.  Instead, Israel is
              doing everything they can to weaken Lebanon's government,
              embolden those fractions who is already out of control as
              first place.  Again.  Lebanon is not a big deal, just like
              having massive famine in Gaza Strip is not a big deal neither.
              The trick is how much can Hezbollah in Lebanon drag Syria
              and Iran into this.  And right now, US policy is not
              encouraging neither nations to co-operate with them.
              By the way, such attack on Lebanon are the reason why
              Arab nations want to get nuclear weapons :p
              \_ I know what you mean, but from Israel's perspective
                 the part of Lebanon they invaded was completely under
                 terrorist control, not the Lebanese government.
                 \_ the war has escalated way beyond those ex-occupation
                    zones.
                    \_ yer both right.  the war is extending way beyond
                       contested lands, but Israel is primarily assaulting
                       Hezbollah areas.
        \_ What does Israel hope to accomplish by attacking Lebanon? I am
           guessing they want to hurt Lebanon's economy, but I don't see
           that these tactics are going to help return the soldiers or
           force Lebanon to take a stand against Hezbollah. Does Israel
           intend to occupy Lebanon? That's really the only way that these
           attacks might change anything, but I doubt Israel will go so far.
           \_ There are three objectives:
              (1) Occupy a Israel-dictated buffer zone (again),
              (2) Indicate that future kidnappings will be met with a
                  disproportione use of force (you'll hurt more than me), and
                \_ Terrorists only do kidnappings if there IS a
                   disproportionate response ... The only way they can keep
                   their movements going, by constantly radicalizing their
                   populace and making moderation untenable.
                   \_ I'd be inclined to say that there's TONS of evidence
                      that would seem to contradict this claim.
                        \_ And yet there was the leader of Hezbollah on TV
                           right after some of the early attacks calling on all
                           the world's Muslims to join him and attack Israel,
                           when is the last time you saw him on TV?
              (3) Getting the soldiers back.

        \_ The most likely outcome is a temporary ceasefire, with Israel
           holding onto a buffer zone in south Lebanon and airstrikes whenever
           Hezbollah fires another rocket into Israel while the press writes
           "wasn't there supposed to be a ceasefire?"
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