www.tuaw.com/2006/05/04/macbook-pro-heat-problem-heats-up
Dismantle your MacBook Pro, wipe off the goo and replace it with smaller amounts. A picture from one of Apple's technical guides was posted to the forums, and suddenly Apple's legal team leapt into action.
Now its possbile to actually touch it over the F keys, and use it on your lap. One big problem is thou, that the fans are now spinning ALL the time. I guess this is because the heatpipes are actually getting hot now, unlike before, where the heat was trapped inside it. The fans havent turned off yet, and my CPU is indeed idle (menumeters).
the first one had a problem with the keyboard so I took the opportunity to send back and get a new one. The new one had the whine when I first received, but after doing the software update, the whine has gone. The heat doesn't seem to be as bad after the update, either. Playing World of Warcraft on it heats it up pretty good, but just normal use it stays warm, but not unbearable. sounds to me like Apple has found a 'production' issue that needs to be resolved. I wish they would admit it is an issue and do the right thing.
The MacBook Pro is being manufactured by one of the Taiwanese firms (Quanta, Comal or Acer) that pretty much make every portable out there. The idea that they couldn't apply thermal paste properly is absurd.
I'm more worried that Apple's lawyers are continuing to threaten forum hosts with this piece of incredible logic: "The Service Source manual for the MacBook Pro is Apple's intellectual property and is protected by US copyright law. Linking to the manual on your website is an infringement of Apple's copyrights." They've threatened Low End Mac in the past, and they know that no one has the wealth to challenge their quite illogical argument, which is like accusing Amazon of breaking copyright by listing the name of a copyrighted book.
they really should reconsider the way their lawyers communicate to the public / their "information handling" in the apple forums. otherwise they might run into some serious image problems...
MPB 15" 216 SOAP OPERA by Gaston: I purchased a refurbished MBP 15" 216 for 2399 on their site, the claimed to be computers in good conditions that have been just opened box or had hardware problem that has been repaired. Nightmare, here I come: 1- Computer gets shipped to the wrong address (8 days, not 24hrs like advertised on the web site) 2- Call apple and they said that the only thing they can do is to wait for fedex to locate the computer and re route it to Apple, then they will send it to me. No solution, the only thing i can do is to ship back the machine, buy a brand new one or get another refurbished but they couldn't warranty that it will be hassle free - that's no how they advertise it on the site. on the wood, the coat on the desk melted and now I have a ruined 800 bucks desk. The paste is conducting the heat rather the processors to heat up and tiger the fans. I ASSUME WHY THEY DID THIS: The computer seems to run good even though you can fried eggs and cook your bacon for your morning's breakfast, like this hot, the computer gives you 2 hours (if so) of computer battery life with your screen brightness at 45% With these fans on all the time (since this processors heat up like virgin on a first date) you would have about 30 mins of batter life with your screen brightness at 45%. Mac Book Pro performs really good and even the few non apple applications I tried run equal or faster than my dual 27 desktop, but something has to be done about this heat problem. I really don't want to buy the lap dissipator for laptop computers. Hope this thread helps anyone trying to invest on one of these eggs frier. Don't get me wrong, the performance is good, but this should have been taken care off before launching them on the market, maybe the engineering of a greater battery would have solved the problem, the thermal paste is just a "caveman's solution" to rush the release of the MBP 15". Hope Apple manages this issue on the 17 systems, maybe the bigger space leads to bigger fans or something.
It's interesting how large companies are apt to have problems like this. I expect that someone at Apple made a mistake, and rather than admit all the problems caused and money lost, he/she has decide to stay with the story that extra thermal grease will not cause problems. If the other people in the company like him/her a lot or are scared of him/her, then no one will speak up. People need to protect their relationships and their jobs, and sometimes the product takes a hit. With a little luck, the person who made the mistake will find a way to be right but still apply less thermal paste. Human nature is weird, but I run into this situation a lot.
Eric wrote: time: tomorrow afternoon location: apple store: activity: refund my 2166 macbook pro Eric, you are not alone. And I humbly propose that whoever, like myself, paid a load of money for their macpro do the same. A 'laptop' is a 'lap-top,' but if you even try to put the macpro on your lap you will get burned! In fact, I was also left with a 'nice' mark on my desk from the overheating of the machine. I am returning this computer, with a picture of my desk.
I got my MacBook Pro as a replacement for my lemon Powerbook which was still under warranty. I was really excited about all the new features but I'm so disappointed with the heat problem. It might do a good job keeping you warm in the winter, but working on it now when it's already warm makes my fingers feel puffy. And although it's fast and works well otherwise, I don't really enjoy working on it. I also have a whine sound that I was planning to call Applecare about. This is the first time I've looked into this issue and I can't believe they're trying to ignore it.
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