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2006/6/13-15 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:43369 Activity:nil
6/12    Surprise!  Canadians torture terrorism suspects!
        http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_1097.aspx
        \_ Redacting suspects to Canada is a lot more convenient
           than Poland, Romania, Egypt and Syria.
           \_ Why do you think Canada is any more convenient?  Because the
              plane trip is shorter?  Most of them are closer to Syria than
              the US.
           \_ I think you mean "Rendering" as the verb form of "Rendition"
              "Redacting" means to "putting into writing"
              \_ actually, "redacting" means "editing," not writing, and he's
                 probably looking for "remanding."  -tom
                 \- i think the OP does mean "Rendering" as the PP suggests,
                    as used in the expression "extreme rendition". in my
                    experience "redacting" refers to the practice of "blacking
                    out stuff" that somebody desires to hide before publishing
                    it in a wider context (i am not claiming that is the only
                    meaning, just the only usage i have come across ... i have
                    not seen it used in the general sense of edit, proofread).
                    remand in this case would probably have a diff meaning than
                    what the above poster intended ... i assume he means the
                    USA practice of outsourcing tourture, rather than returning
                    somebody to somebody elses custoody or jusrisdictionw when
                    you are "finished" with him. remand also often is used
                    by a higher court to send something back to a lower court
                    to reevaluate a case possibly with newly announced
                    guidelines.
        \_ YES I meant when US ships a guy to Egypt to bind his testicles
           to a satellite dish running Al-Jazeera because it's still illegal
           to do that on US soil.  We ship people to Syria don't we?
           I thought they were our opponents in the terror war.
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RSS Publication Ban Issued As Terror Suspects Back In Court Monday June 12, 2006 The terror case took several bizarre twists in a Brampton courthouse Monday. Lawyers for some of those accused emerged from the halls of justice in the morning claiming their clients are being tortured behind bars. Lawyer David Kolinsky represents 20-year-old Mississauga resident Zakaria Amara. "He is being held in a concrete room, approximately 11 feet by 6 feet. There is a small slit that is opened when meals are placed in his room. The light is on 24 hours a day and actually as early as 30 years ago, the federal court trial division of Canada had noted and had accepted expert testimony that this type of treatment is known to cause depression and suicide and has held that this type of treatment is, in fact, cruel and unusual punishment, contrary to the Bill of Rights." But he insists the treatment has gone farther than that - including beatings by a guard. "My client when he was being searched by a guard, was pinned into the ground. He had the guard's finger drilled into his cheek and the guard flicked him quite hard in the eye . "He told me on Friday, his thumbs are still numb from plastic restraints placed on his wrists at the time and he has not received proper medical attention in that respect... "Clearly leaving the light on 24 hours a day and waking them up every half hour the last ten days constitutes torture," he alleges. He had toyed with asking the jurist to make the trial available to the media via a pool camera so Canadians could see what's actually going on behind closed doors. "I want the public to know exactly the allegations against my client. I want the public to assess for itself and have confidence in the administration of justice," he demands. But the judge wasn't in the mood to have this already charged case be tried in the press. So in the afternoon he issued a publication ban, which the advocates didn't want - but wound up with any way. Once that prohibition was put into effect, all the lawyers became men of few words. "There's nothing that I can talk about," one noted ruefully as he left the scene. Bail hearings have now been scheduled for later in June and July. But the ban means we may not be able to find out what took place when the suspects show up yet again in the slow - and now silent - march to justice.