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2006/5/14-17 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/California] UID:43053 Activity:nil
5/14    http://saveoceanbeach.org/stopthefireban
        proposed ban on fires on ocean beach.
        \_ Why do they ban beachfires in CA?  FL, Carolinas, Vi Bch, etc
           don't seem to care?
           \- i assume because people burn stuff like pallats with
           \_ they want to ban it in SF because assholes leave their
              detritus on the beach.
           \- i assume because people burn stuff like pallets with
              nails and people who do obnoxious things like throw
              glass bottles in the fires.
        \_ Heh, why not just put stone-enclosed "fire areas" there?  That
           way you could burn what you wanted... -John
           \_ It could be an air quality thing.
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saveoceanbeach.org/stopthefireban
Home Stop The Fire Ban Golden Gate National Recreation Area (GGNRA) is now accepting public comment on a proposal to ban beach fires at Ocean Beach. We beleive that fires on Ocean Beach are an essential part of San Francisco's culture! This diverse community would like to explore alternatives with the GGNRA to address specific issues regarding fires at Ocean Beach. GGNRA will be accepting public comments through April 15, 2006. And policy changes are expected to be effective on May 1, 2006. Zipcode:* Phone: Your Letter:* Talking Points There has been no public annoucement from GGNRA of their intention to ban fires In the middle of the public comment period, GGNRS announced announced their intention to ban fires, with no further public meetings. And apparently your comments are more effective if you propose an alternative. Many beach users do tend to agree that the current status quo isn't working. Here are some proposed alternatives: * education-- getting the word out about no glass/metal * signage at the beach * permits which require people to know the rules before building a fire * numbered sites with a self-permitting system (again to ensure education) * fire rings (such as those often found in SoCal) * clean wood sales-- selling metal-free wood at the beach Fires are limited to only a small section of Ocean Beach Public comment will now be accepted through May 31, 2006. GGNRA Facts 1 In FY2005, GGNRA spent approximately $90,000 cleaning up after beach fires and responding to law enforcement calls related to beach fires. Richmond and Sunset neighbors also complain about smoke and increased crime in their neighborhoods. More info here Solutions Consider creating a permitting process that is similar to the permitting process used by the National Forest Service Create signs on the beach that indicate where fires can be burned and what can be in the fire If people want to burn something with staples or nails, require burn platforms or fire rings to be used The GGNRA can build public fire rings to be used Impose strict fines for anybody burning anything other than wood.