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5/4     http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/03/news/economy/realestateguide_fortune
        Swami the Magnificant predicted correctly. Spring 2006 begins
        the fall of housing.                    -Swami Stud's #1 Fan
        \_ ObAccusationOfBitterness
        \_ Can the Swami guy like, produce an Excel chart for me showing the
           mean price of a 3-bdrm standalone house in San Jose with $ on the
           y-axis and time on the x-axis through the next ~ 5 years (use error
           bars because nothing's definite).  Tnx, then I'll know exactly
           when to buy!
        \_ uh, Swami predicted Q4 2005, and prices are still going up in
           Q2 2006.  -tom
           \_ Not according to http://Zillow.com. They say that prices in SF and
              Alameda County peaked in Nov 2005.
             http://www.zillow.com/Charts.htm?chartDuration=1year&zpid=24811647
             \_ that's not seasonally adjusted, and Zillow is not any kind of
                authority, anyway.
                Update: Bay Area home prices rose by 10% in March.
                http://tinyurl.com/n6p3h (sfgate.com)  -tom
                \_ I'm not sure if the guy meant "They" meant http://zillow.com, but:
                   "... firm DataQuick. The peak price of $656,000 [considering
                   single-family homes only] came in November"
                   Here in SoCal we had a bounce from a depression around
                   Feb 06 to a new peak Apr 06, so it could happen for Bay
                   Area ...
                   Here in SoCal we had a bounce from a low spot around
                   Feb 06 to a new peak Apr 06, so it could happen for Bay Area
                   \_ month-to-month prices are not meaningful; you need to
                      compare with previous-year numbers for each month.  -tom
                      \_ What is the inflection point for the following series
                         of prices? To me it is Nov 2005. For you it is
                         Apr 2006, I guess. -ausman
                        Apr 2005 $100
                        May 2005 $100
                        June 2005 $100
                        July 2005 $101
                        Aug 2005 $102
                        Sep 2005 $103
                        Oct 2005 $104
                        Nov 2005 $105
                        Dec 2005 $104
                        Jan 2006 $103
                        Feb 2006 $102
                        Mar 2006 $101
                        Apr 2006 $100
                        May 2006 $99
                        \_ You can't look at prices in isolation.  Houses
                           are known to have seasonal variation in price;
                           houses purchased in January are, all else being
                           equal, less expensive than houses purchased in
                           May.  -tom
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FSB 100 Welcome to the dead zone Real estate survival guide: The great housing bubble has finally started to deflate, and the fall will be harder in some markets than others. Shawn Tully, FORTUNE senior writer May 4, 2006: 2:15 PM EDT NEW YORK (FORTUNE) - The stories keep piling up. In many once-sizzling markets around the country, accounts of dropping list prices have replaced tales of waiting lists for unbuilt condos and bidding wars over humdrum three-bedroom colonials. Five years of superheated price gains rescued America from stock market collapse, put billions in consumers' pockets, and ignited a building boom that bolstered the nation's economy. These markets are already showing the signs of distress that will soon spread to the rest of the bubble zone. As interest rates rise, more homes are becoming unaffordable. Developers are offering discounts and incentives, and buyers are biding their time. The downward spiral will make the former boomtowns Dead Zones. 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If you can't see the numbers in the box above, check your browser to see if it is set to display images. If you still can't tell what the numbers are, enter any numbers and a different set will be returned to you. To see previous sales, tax info and comparable houses, please type the numbers you see in the picture above.
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Email This Article Bay Area home prices rose by less than 10 percent in March, the first time in more than two years that appreciation rates dipped into the single digits and further evidence of a gradual slowdown in the region's once-blistering housing market. The median price for a single-family home in the nine counties was $655,000, up 83 percent from $605,000 one year ago, and up nearly 3 percent from February's $637,000, according to real estate information firm DataQuick. The number of houses and condos sold, meanwhile, declined for the 12th consecutive month, as recent interest rate increases put a damper on buyers' spending power. A total of 9,745 homes changed hands last month, nearly 14 percent below March 2005's tally of 11,310. "We figure that sales will be good but not spectacular on into the summer and that price increases will stay below ten percent," said Marshall Prentice, president of the La Jolla firm. "We'll probably have a couple of months with new price peaks, but those new records will be reached at a slower rate of appreciation." March's figures lend credence to the theory that the Bay Area housing market is cooling, but not crashing. For several years, prices and sales surged to new records, worrying economists who warned of the potential for a sharp correction. According to DataQuick, indicators of market "distress" -- which can signal an abrupt turn in the market -- remain largely absent.
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New 3D-like images let buyers examine homes at an angle. You can see all sides of the home up close, and tell how it is positioned on the lot.
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New 3D-like images let buyers examine homes at an angle. You can see all sides of the home up close, and tell how it is positioned on the lot.