5/1 Please don't (yeah right) turn this into a pro/anti-immigration
flame war, but I am genuinely curious: would the immigrant groups
striking/demonstrating/boycotting/whatevering be happier if all
illegal immigrants were given green cards/citizenship, and (along with
their employers) made to pay taxes/SS? -John
\_ There isn't one answer to that question. But many immigrant
groups are advocating for amnesty for illegals currently in the
U.S., which would have that effect. -tom
\_ Well, Mecha and La Raza appear to be advocating returning the
southern states to Mexico.
\_ I think this whole immigration issue is being blurred on purpose.
Employ illegal immigrants is one of the worse form of corporate
welfare: employer is able to exploit cheap labor who has no
bargaining power, while passing down the cost of illegal immigrants
(school, health care, etc) to the government. If you look at this
whole thing from "corporate welfare" angle, then, you probably would
agree with me that yes, all illegal would *LOVE* to have
work permit/permanant residence/citizenship given, but that is not
going to happen for one simple reason: Those illegal, cheap
labor will no longer cheap when they become a legal labor.
Employers would have to pay health insurance and taxes on employing
these labors, which defeat the purpose of hiring those illegal
immigrants at first place.
\- well it is also a benefit to white collar people who hire
them for services. re: your last point, that is why the
corporate section of BUSHCO has split with hick BUSHCO ...
the hicks want them out [and are opposed to outsourcing too]
while the corporate types want to have an official class of
second class citizens.
\_ I would view white collar hiring of nanny and gardners are
also a form of "corporate welfare," except individual end up
paying more taxes on supporting those illegals than the
actual per-hour wages we paid.
While it's clear that Republicans are split, I am not even
sure what is Democrat's position on this issue. |
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