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2006/4/5-7 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:42684 Activity:kinda low
4/5     http://news.findlaw.com/cnn/docs/chldprn/fladoyle32806cr2.html
        Dept of Homeland Security Deputy Press Secretary Brian J. Doyle charged
        with 23 felony counts involving Internet pr0n, Bill O'Reilly style
        telephone conversations with a detective posing as a 14-year-old girl.
        I knew I recognized his name from somewhere ...
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Air_Marshal_Service
        \_ Remember, the reason that we need to stop bitching about all this
           Civil Liberties crap is because the people who work to protect our
           nation's security are 100% trustworthy!  Checks and balances are for
           blocking Congress' power, not executive power.  Oh, and atheists..
           remember, they're neither citizens or patriots.
                \_ People who don't believe in fairy tales cannot be fully
                   trusted.
           \_ Maybe you missed the core concept here: he got caught and busted
              not protected and excused.  You want checks and balances, you got
              them.  This guy is now in jail.  What more could you want?  I
              know ebing knee-jerk is more fun, but really.
              \_ And you miss his core concept.  He's saying we _actually do_
                 have to worry about our civil liberties and abuses thereof
                 is that people like this are in the machine.  His argument
                 is not with you.  His argument is with the president and his
                 "Trust me" argument.  That this guy was caught doesn't make
                 the system any more trustworthy.
                 Funny fact: Do you know he's the third DHS employee in the
                 last three months arrested for sex-with-children charges?
                 \_ Oh no, I understood his point perfectly.  You again miss
                    mine.  People are people.  Any system will always have fuck
                    heads like that guy in it.  That's why we have other people
                    looking for people like that and when they're found they
                    get tossed in prison and never get put in any position of
                    trust ever again.  What system could you possibly create
                    that wouldn't require some level of trust of the people
                    who run it and would magically pre-filter fuck heads out
                    before they commit a crime?  In this case there was no
                    victim because he was caught and filtered before he found
                    a *real* 14 year old girl (as far as we know).  And now
                    he's a dead man and rightly so.  The system worked.  I see
                    no problem here.
                    \_ I, and the previous poster, are not saying "we need to/
                       can make the system trustworthy."  We are speaking to
                       the President's claim that his actions (warrantless
                       wiretaps, extraordinary rendition, et.al.) are
                       implicitly trustworthy.  As you say, the system worked
                       to catch this guy.  What we're talking about are the
                       systems that have recently been constructed that don't
                       have the necessary checks.
                       \_ you missed the big one: label someone as
                          "enemy combatent" and lock them in torture
                          chamber somewhere in Egypt/Pakistan and doesn't allow
                          Red Cross to examine them :p
                    \_ That's right every system will have fuckups and
                       criminals and power hungry bastards which is why when
                       Bush starts talking about the "unitary executive" and
                       being able to ignore any law Congress passed because
                       he's on a never-ending quest to rid the world of terra,
                       and ignore any court oversight too, people start to
                       worry about "the system" no longer policiing itself
                       worry about "the system" no longer policing itself
                       properly.
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Computer Crimes The criminal child seduction and pornography charges filed in Florida against the US Department of Homeland Security's Deputy Press Secretary, Brian Doyle, alleging that he tried to seduce someone over the internet whom he believed was a 14-year-old child, sending pornographic video images via e-mail.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Air_Marshal_Service
TSA is also proposing to expand the use of Federal Air Marshals within the entire public transit sector. In a pilot program announced in December 2005 the TSA stated they will implement a program to have air marshals cover buses, light rail, passenger rail systems and ferries across the country. edit Training Federal Air Marshals go through an intense, two-phase training program. The first phase of the program is a seven-week basic law enforcement course. Their training is tailored to the role that the Federal Air Marshals will be performing while on the job. Some of the specific areas covered in this training include constitutional law, marksmanship, physical fitness, behavioral observation, defensive tactics, emergency medical assistance, and other law enforcement techniques. The second phase trains the candidates for tasks that they will be expected to carry out in the field. This training places an emphasis on perfecting the marksmanship skills of the candidates. A necessity of the job due to the tight confines of an aircraft, as well as the number of bystanders. Candidates that successfully complete this training will be assigned to one of 21 field offices, where they will begin their missions. As noted above, Air Marshals must be recertified on their firearm quarterly. According to an anonymous Air Marshal, they are trained to "shoot to stop," typically firing at the largest part of the body (the chest) and then the head to "incapacitate the nervous system." Under the service's original policy which has now been rescinded, Air Marshals were required to conform to a strict dress code, well-shaved and with a conservative haircut. They also boarded before other passengers to scan the aircraft for weapons and explosives. The Federal Air Marshal Association complained that the dress code and priority boardings made Marshals targets for any possible hijackers, making them stand out as possible government agents and thus reducing their effectiveness. Bush Administration authorized thousands of new Air Marshals to be hired. Many were agents from other federal agencies, such as the US Customs Service, Drug Enforcement Administration, US Postal Inspection Service, and many others. ICE also had an investigative division with Special Agents specializing in investigating immigration and customs violations. Those immigration and customs agents would be cross trained to serve as supplemental FAMS in the event of a national emergency or in response to intelligence requiring additional marshals on flights. memorandum determining that Air Marshals would not also be ICE Special Agents. In 2005, Secretary Chertoff conducted a second-stage review of DHS' organization and ordered the FAMS to be moved from ICE and back to the TSA. Gardner said that after everyone on the plane was seated, Alpizar suddenly ran up the aisle from the back of the plane. Gardner said she did not hear him say anything as he ran by, although she was seated in the third row of the Economy section. Beshears said Alpizar's wife pursued him only part of the way, then turned back and said her husband was sick and she needed to get his bags. While Alpizar's wife was going back toward her seat, passenger Jorge Borrelli says he very clearly heard "Stop!" It is not clear what Alpizar was wearing at the time of the shooting, although none of the published witness accounts have described Alpizar as wearing the backpack over his chest when he left the plane. It is also not clear if the Air Marshals had confronted Alpizar at his seat, or if they had followed Alpizar after he began leaving the plane, although the sum of witness reports suggests it being the latter. Lonny Glover, national safety coordinator for the Association of Professional Flight Attendants, said: "As the man came forward it was obvious that he was upset ... Gardner said she overheard the wife say he had recently failed to take his medication. On the inbound flight to Miami, Ellen Sutliff, a passenger who said she sat near the Alpizar couple, described Alpizar as agitated, with his wife saying to him: "We just have to get through customs. We're going to be home soon, and everything will be all right". Prior to boarding in Miami, passenger Alan Tirpak also described Alpizar as agitated, and singing "Go Down Moses" as his wife tried to assure him. Miami-Dade criminal investigations unit said that Alpizar's wife told him that Alpizar had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder about a decade earlier. Sister-in-law Kelley Buechner said she had only known that Alpizar had a "chemical imbalance" for which he took "vitamins". She said that this was characteristic of Alpizar's wife's not telling her, as "She's the type who doesn't want to burden people with her problems." She said she had never known Alpizar to stop taking his medication. Peru, losing a passport, wallet, notebook computer, and cell phone: "That really upset Rigo ... Anne was robbed in Peru, and it was very unsettling to them both." Veronica Ferguson issued a statement saying early indications point to Alpizar running frantically from the airplane "with a backpack strapped to his chest, yelling that he had a bomb." Juan Del Castillo said individuals on the plane (other than the Air Marshals) also heard the bomb threats, although police would not say at what location the bomb threats were made. Police said Alpizar turned around in the jetway and walked in a threatening manner toward the Air Marshals, who stepped back before firing. Del Castillo said Alpizar's threats and the Air Marshal's commands were in English.