Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 42548
Berkeley CSUA MOTD
 
WIKI | FAQ | Tech FAQ
http://csua.com/feed/
2025/07/11 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
7/11    

2006/3/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:42548 Activity:nil
3/30    George Will on immigration:
        http://tinyurl.com/kfm3o
        I agree with most of what he says.  I was hating on George Will for a
        long time after he wrote that we should pave over Alaska just because
        he found environmentalists annoying.
        \_ I basically agree with that.  Immigration needs to be controlled,
           but making illegal entry a felony is not helpful.  We also need to
           improve the system to make it as easy as possible for people we do
           want.  (And we need to be honest about what that means.) -jrleek
        \_ I think Will's dodging the painful truth (that we need to provide
           an economic disincentive to illegally hiring illegal workers) in
           favor of handwaving over something that most people, left and right,
           agree with, namely, that we need a solution that protects the
           borders without marginalizing the immigrant class. And his dig at
           Soc Sec is just petty.
2025/07/11 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular
7/11    

You may also be interested in these entries...
2013/2/5-3/4 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:54598 Activity:nil
2/5     http://www.csua.org/u/z5u (news.yahoo.com)
        "I hope no one uses the term 'illegal immigrants' here today," said
        Committee Ranking Member John Conyers of Michigan. "Our citizens are
        not illeg -- the people in this country are not illegal. They are out
        of status."
        How did this guy get himself on the House Judiciary Committee?  Is it
	...
2012/7/25-10/17 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/Japan, Reference/History/WW2/Japan] UID:54444 Activity:nil
7/25    http://www.quora.com/Japan/What-facts-about-Japan-do-foreigners-not-believe-until-they-come-to-Japan
        Japan rules!
        \_ Fifteen years ago I worked there for seven months.  I miss Japan!
           (I'm Chinese immigrant.)  More facts:
           - Besides cold drinks, vending machines also carry hot drinks like
             hot tea and corn soup.  And they are actually hot instead of warm.
	...
2012/7/21-9/24 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:54440 Activity:nil
7/21    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cold_War_pilot_defections
        This week's food for thought, brought to you by People's
        Republic of Berkeley: Did you know that many US pilots defected to
        communist Cuba?  South Korea pilots defected to communist
        North Korea? Iran<->Iraq pilots defected to each other?
        W Germany pilots defected to E Germany? Taiwan/ROC pilots
	...
2012/2/26-3/26 [Politics/Foreign] UID:54315 Activity:nil
2/26    I have dual citizenship. If I leave US and enter country Z, is
        there a way I can make the immigration booth "stamp" both passports
        (not necessarily stamp, but electronically record) such that both
        countries know that I left US for country Z. Then, when I depart
        country Z and head back to US, only provide the US passport? I'd
        like to do this so country Z thinks that I am permanently residing
	...
2010/11/15-2011/1/13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53992 Activity:nil
11/15   "CA Supreme Court ...... ruled that illegal immigrants are entitled to
        the same tuition breaks offered to in-state high school students to
        attend public colleges and universities."
        http://www.csua.org/u/s0a
        Not only do illigal immigrants enjoy the same benefits as citizens
        (not to mention legal immigrants), they can actually enjoy more
	...
2010/8/29-9/30 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53942 Activity:kinda low
8/29    OC turning liberal, maybe there is hope for CA afterall:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/30/us/politics/30orange.html
        \_ and the state is slowly turning conservative. Meg 2010!
           \_ We will see. Seems unlikely.
        \_ Yeah, because CA sure has a problem with not enough dems in power!
           If only dems had been running the state for the last 40 years!
	...
2010/5/17-26 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Recreation/Sports] UID:53829 Activity:nil
5/17    L.A. is now officially a pro-illegal-immigrant city.
        http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1989448,00.html
        \_ You are now officially an idiot.
        \_ Ah the arm chair wisdom of someone who'd never been to LA.
	...
2010/4/10-5/10 [Recreation/Dating, Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:53780 Activity:nil
4/8     In addition to below, can someone recommend a movie or soap
        opera that describes the life of Kangxi Emperor? Netflix = useless.
        Mandarin is fine as long as there's subtitle. Thanks.
        \_ Not exactly a soap opera, but Kangxi Di Guo is a very good TV series
           featuring Chen Dao-Ming as Kangxi.  Whether or not it's accurate to
           history is another matter, though.
	...
2010/3/29-4/14 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/President] UID:53763 Activity:nil
3/29    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100329/us_time/08599197588300
        "Arabs, who would seem to have an even stronger race claim than
        Hispanics do, are trumpeting their own write-in campaign because the
        Census by default counts them as white ... Ironically, part of the
        problem is that Arab immigrants a century ago petitioned the Federal
        Government to be categorized as white to avoid discrimination."
	...
2010/1/12-25 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:53628 Activity:nil
1/12    "Skewed China birth rate to leave 24 mln men single"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100111/hl_afp/chinapopulationmenmarriage
        We'd better enact a slew of anti-male-immigration laws now before the
        wave hits our coasts!  Here's our slogan: "SAVE OUR WOMEN ...... For
        Ourselves"
        \_Shit, I wouldn't want to get in a war with them.
	...
2009/11/17-30 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:53532 Activity:nil
11/17   Illegal Immigration: There's an App for That
        http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/illegal_immigration_theres_an_app_for_that.php
	...
Cache (4587 bytes)
tinyurl.com/kfm3o -> www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/03/the_president_is_right_on_immi.html
George Will WASHINGTON -- America, the only developed nation that shares a long -- 2,000-mile -- border with a Third World nation, could seal that border. East Germany showed how: walls, barbed wire, machine gun-toting border guards in towers, mine fields, large irritable dogs. And we have modern technologies that East Germany never had -- sophisticated sensors, unmanned surveillance drones, etc. It is a melancholy fact that many of these may have to be employed along the US-Mexican border. The alternatives are dangerous and disagreeable conditions for Americans residing near the border, and vigilantism. It is, however, important that Americans feel melancholy about taking such measures to frustrate immigration that usually is an entrepreneurial act -- taking risks to get to America to do work most Americans spurn. As debate about immigration policy boils, augmented border control must not be the entire agenda, lest other thorny problems be ignored, and lest America turn a scowling face to the south and, to some extent, to many immigrants already here. But control belongs at the top of the agenda, for four reasons. First, control of borders is an essential attribute of sovereignty. Second, current conditions along the border mock the rule of law. Third, large rallies by immigrants, many of them here illegally, protesting more stringent control of immigration reveal that many immigrants have, alas, assimilated: They have acquired the entitlement mentality spawned by America's welfare state, asserting an entitlement to exemption from the laws of the society they invited themselves into. Fourth, giving Americans a sense that borders are controlled is a prerequisite for calm consideration of what policy that control should serve. Of the estimated at least 11 million illegal immigrants -- a cohort larger than the combined populations of 12 states -- 60 percent have been here at least five years. We are not going to take the draconian police measures necessary to deport 11 million people. They would fill 200,000 buses in a caravan stretching bumper-to-bumper from San Diego to Alaska -- where, by the way, 26,000 Latinos live. And there are no plausible incentives to get the 11 million to board the buses. Facts, a conservative (John Adams) said, are stubborn things, and regarding immigration, true conservatives take their bearings from facts such as those in the preceding paragraph. Conservatives should want, as the president proposes, a guest worker program to supply what the US economy demands -- immigrant labor for entry-level jobs. Conservatives should favor a policy of encouraging unlimited immigration by educated persons with math, engineering, technology or science skills that America's education system is not sufficiently supplying. And conservatives should favor reducing illegality by putting illegal immigrants on a path out of society's crevices and into citizenship by paying fines and back taxes and learning English. The House-passed bill, making it a felony to be in the country illegally, would make 11 million people permanently ineligible for legal status. Within a decade, the New York and Washington metropolitan regions will join the Miami, Houston, Los Angeles and San Francisco regions in having majorities made up of minorities, partly because immigrants have higher birth rates than whites. Since 2000, births, not immigration, were the largest source of growth of America's Latino population. Urban immigrant communities, with their support networks, are magnets for immigrants. Investor's Business Daily reports a new study demonstrating that over the past 30 years rising immigration led to higher wages for US-born workers. Cities that served as migrant magnets did better than others. Hiring one worker creates wealth with which to hire more workers." The president, who has not hoarded his political capital, spent some trying to get the nation to face facts about the bleak future of an unreformed Social Security system. Concerning which: In 1940 there were 42 workers for every retiree; today there are 31 By 2030, when all 77 million baby boomers have left the work force, there will be only 22 And that projection assumes net annual immigration, legal and illegal, of 900,000, more than double the 400,000 foreigners who, under the terms of proposed Senate legislation, could come here to work each year. Today the president is spending more of his depleted political capital by standing to the left of much of his political base, which favors merely preventative and punitive measures regarding immigration.