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2006/3/30-31 [Politics/Domestic/Immigration] UID:42533 Activity:moderate
3/29    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189402,00.html
        "Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't
         an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American
         flag. We have room for but one language here, and that is the
         English language."             -Roosevelt
        \_ Yes, we know, they're all horrible people.  The ones in the pics
           below are pretty disagreeable.  Now please stop with the fucking
           freeper spam, please.  -John
        \_ just levy 100,000 of fine + 1 yr of jail time per violation to
           those who employ illegal immigrants.  Once those people discover
           they can't find work here, they won't bother to risk their lives to
           come to USA.
           \_ Who would that benefit?  -tom
              \_ cut down the illegal immigration will benefit us all.
                 when I say that, I mean price for food, housing and
                 child care will finally refelct the "true" market value, which
                 I suspect many of people won't able to bear on their own.
                 When people discover that price of food and construction and
                 child care suddenly risen by 40%, then, invading another
                 country for WMD half way across the world may become a
                 secondary concern.     kngharv
                 \_ Woo.  So you are saying that Americans would be better off
                    if many people can't afford the price of food, housing,
                    and child care?  And that the Iraq war was caused by
                    illegal aliens?  Put your analyst on danger money.  -tom
           \_ Better yet, enforce the laws we now have.
              \_ What laws?
        \_ See? How quick that article trots out the "jobs Americans won't do".
           Stupid fucking bitch. (Actually, the article also uses "American's".
           And this is supposed to be a professional publication?)
        \_ just levy 100,000 of fine + 1 yr of jail time per violation to
           those who employ illegal immigrants.  Once those people discover
           they can't find work here, they won't bother to risk their lives to
           come to USA.
           \_ Better yet, enforce the laws we now have.
        \_ I like how the article's immediately followed by "Paris is Burning"
           Gee... why's that?  Could it be... the exact sort of guest worker
           program that's being championed?
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Theodore Roosevelt quote, one that I remember but had not seen in some time and now sent to me by a viewer, is worth reading as an immigration battle rages in this country. "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith, becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American... Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." Advertise Here There must be a way for us to be pro-immigrant -- remembering that we and our ancestors were all immigrants seeking a better life -- while at the same time enforcing our laws. President Bush's plan -- to allow those illegal immigrants who are here to continue to do the jobs that American's won't do (because of our historically low unemployment rate) and to keep on working on a temporary basis -- may be the way to go. Let's give everyone 30 days to register so that law enforcement knows who and where they are. A fence to keep new illegals from entering seems a feasible and logical, if imperfect, idea. Most of all, what disturbs many in this country are the images of waving foreign flags and placards written in Spanish. Think back to Roosevelt's words: If you want to come to America, you have to embrace it. Speak the language, become a citizen, abide by the laws and pay taxes and then America will protect your rights wholeheartedly. On Tuesday, we watched the protests in the streets of Paris. Donald Rumsfeld's reference to "Old Europe" not being needed in the war in Iraq. He took a lot of heat for it -- but in a sense, we are watching some on the streets fight to preserve "Old Europe" today. There are some great things about really "Old Europe": the architecture, the food, the style and a slower way of life and savoring beauty. But there are some bad things about not-so-"Old Europe" that have led to a struggling economy that has left them no longer the envy of the world -- and it makes them crazy. Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin tries to move the country forward by suggesting that employment is a free market, some of the people are rebelling. The idea that hard and well done work gives you job security and that you are not "entitled" to employment isn't going down so well with some of the French. Pete Kemp writes to me from Tampa: Hi Martha, I find it interesting that young people are rioting in France over early termination, when here in the United States, teachers in the United States, depending on the state, have to perform four years WITHOUT any security. They may be fired without cause for any reason, without any recourse. People complain about tenure, but without it, in many cases teachers would continued to be abused by the politics of education. Tenure, in reality, is a fair dismissal law, not a system to allow poor teachers to continue in a career path. Change may be coming to the great country of France, but I hope it won't be in the fromage and the vin.