Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 42438
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2006/3/26-27 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:42438 Activity:nil
3/25    One mans story of torture:
        http://csua.org/u/fc3
        \_ Last I checked "Olga" was not a man's name.  Anyway, what would
           you say the line is between torture and interrogation?  Is any
           form of aggressiveness questioning beyond bounds with prisoners of
           war?
           \_ The electric shocks probably count as torture.
              \_ Probably.  What about other things?  Where is the line?
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Large Text Size Large Text Size Change text size Surviving to tell the tale of torture By Olga Talamante, OLGA TALAMANTE is the executive director of California's Chicana/Latina Foundation. March 25, 2006 THE BURLAP BAG felt rough and scratchy against my cheek, but it also smelled earthy and deceptively comforting. Thick tape already covered my eyes, so the bag's only purpose was to frighten me. A day earlier I had been a not-too-unusual 24-year-old American student from UC Santa Cruz, working with the Peronist Youth organization for social change in Azul, Argentina. For the next 16 months, I would become one of thousands of political prisoners and torture victims taken into custody as Argentina first declared martial law and then later suffered a right-wing military coup. But I was one of the lucky ones -- a survivor, thanks to family and friends in the United States who won my release on March 27, 1976. When I returned home to California and testified about the torture, my stories horrified listeners. But we could feel safe here because torture was the province of brutal, unsophisticated despots. It was a time when the average American could not imagine our soldiers abroad participating in anything remotely similar. Now, three years into the Iraq war, we have seen the images of Abu Ghraib and read accounts of the atrocities at Baghdad's Camp Nama. Americans once shocked by my experience now hear officials defend torture as a necessary evil in the war against terrorism. In my secret torture chamber -- later it was confirmed to have been within the walls of the local police station -- a slight turn of my head could bring on a new barrage of insults and fists. I could feel furniture and tried to use the contour of a chair, the edge of a table and sounds to get my bearings. I wanted to know exactly where I was: to the left of the table, to the right of the credenza or in front of the water fountain? With my elbow, I felt the corner of a table, then a chair. As long as my position was clear, some odd reasoning assured me, survival would follow. I hesitated, and they made it clear that it was not a request but a demand. Now naked except for the tape over my eyes, I felt hands sit me down on a bed and then push me back, spreading my arms and legs, tying them at each corner. Electric currents were applied to the most sensitive parts of my body. Someone shoved a pillow over my face to muffle my screams. After about the third time the electric current surged, I figured out a brilliant maneuver. Right before the hands holding the pillow pushed down again, I turned my head sideways and took a breath. New reasoning kicked in: As long as I could get the timing right, I would survive. Now, every time I read a story about US forces participating in similar acts, it takes me back to that torture room. The Argentine military had its own sick rationale for policies that would ultimately "disappear" thousands of men, women and children -- they were fighting an enemy from within. But the Argentine people had a better name for it: the "dirty war." As Argentina marked the 30th anniversary of the military coup last week, ex-Gen. Jorge Rafael Videla, key implementer of that dirty war, was under house arrest, with thousands of people camped outside his home. The former general has been convicted for multiple cases of robbery, homicide, aggravated false arrests, torture and torture resulting in death between 1976 and 1981. The people are demanding that he serve out that sentence. There will be survivors, and they will tell their stories.