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2006/3/10-13 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/BayArea] UID:42178 Activity:nil
3/10    Looking for data that supports the claim from the 10/13 motd that
        Bay Area prostitution is decreasing.  I can't find anything that
        supports this claim.
        For reference: http://csua.org/u/f70
        \_ Look at http://www.dof.ca.gov/HTML/DEMOGRAP/E-5text2.htm .  That'll
           have the raw numbers.  I'm too lazy to do the math myself, but I
           like to see the answer after you've figured it out.
        \_ You're going to have a hard time finding hard data since there
           really isn't any.  The census is once per 10 years, it's self
           reporting and then they further manually munge the data to fit
           their idea of who they think should be there.  There are other
           methods that take place on a local level but they're not that
           accurate either.  Until everyone gets RFID'd, processed, scanned,
           enumerated, and entered in the computer, these numbers will always
           just be guesstimations at best.  IMO, it's better that way.
        \_ http://tinyurl.com/l4j5n (was declining)
           http://tinyurl.com/m4sf3 (now rising a bit)
        \_ http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2003-07-10-topstrip-usat_x.htm
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com) FEMA paying avg $59/night to put 600,000 post-Katrina/Rita victims in hotels, because conservative ideology kept FEMA from giving vouchers to families for much cheaper apartments, like in pre-Dubya days. com/id/9629463/site/newsweek Conservative columnist George Will: "Conservatives are not supposed to be cuddly, or even particularly nice. And to know that scarcity--of money, virtue, wisdom, competence, everything--forces choices. Furthermore, they are supposed to have an unsentimental commitment to meritocracy and excellence. The fact that none of those responsible for the postwar planning, or lack thereof, in Iraq have been sacked suggests--no, shouts--that in Washington today there is no serious penalty for serious failure. 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Governor's Home Page Welcome to California - Images of the Golden Gate Bridge, a sunset over the Pacific Ocean, the Angel Falls waterfall in Yosemite National Park, golden poppy wildflowers, the San Diego bay, and the Great Seal of the State of California. California Department fo Finance - Demographic Research Unit search My CA E-5 City / County Population and Housing Estimates, 2005, Revised 2001-2004, with 2000 DRU Benchmark May 2005 Acknowledgments Daniel Sheya and Linda Gage prepared this report. Daniel Sheya and Paula Flores prepared the city estimates, Linda Gage prepared the state and county estimates, Evaon Schnagl provided technical support for state and county estimates, Douglas Kuczynski prepared the group quarter's estimates, and Dolores Lykins provided administrative support. Mary Heim, Chief of the Demographic Research Unit, and John Malson, Research Manager over the city estimates unit, provided general direction. Suggested Citation State of California, Department of Finance, E-5 City / County Population and Housing Estimates, 2005, Revised 2001-2004, with 2000 DRU Benchmark. pdf, PowerPoint, and Word file formats provided on this website. Contents This Excel file provides the current population estimates for the state, counties and cities for January 1, 2001, through January 1, 2005. The DRU population estimates benchmark for April 1, 2000, is also provided. The state's population grew 15 percent in 2004, adding 539,000 residents. This continues the annual pattern of a reduced population growth rate since 2001. Los Angeles County continues to be the most populous in the nation. The January state, county, and city series population counts are each estimated independently using change models benchmarked to base year 2000 that corrects for census omissions and geocoding errors. The state population estimate is produced using the Driver License Address Change method. 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The HU changes are supplied by local jurisdictions, the US Census Bureau, and Military Installations. Of the 535 reporting jurisdictions, 517 provided data and 18 did not respond. Of the 18 non-respondents, residential permits from the Census Bureau were used in 17 cases for housing change. The remaining jurisdiction was held to no change in housing as this jurisdiction was not included in Census Bureau data. Occupied HUs are estimated by applying a derived civilian vacancy rate, based on 2000 benchmark data, to the estimated civilian HUs. Occupied military units are added to civilian occupied units to calculate total occupied HUs. Military surveys are used to track military changes, including base realignments and closures. The household population estimate is derived by multiplying the number of occupied HUs by the current persons per household. 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Since timeliness and coverage in these series vary, corrections, smoothing, and other adjustments may be applied. Data and models used to produce population estimates are subject to measurement and nonmeasurement errors. The data and estimating models were thoroughly tested with decennial census results that provide benchmarks for the estimates series. Data and methods are further refined and modified throughout the decade.
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