2/28    Pics of an elaborate underground weed growing facility in TN.
        http://www.phishhook.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=550448
        \- wow, DIY hydraulic door.
           \_ I can't wait to read the details on all of this.
           \_ Doesn't look like it helped.
              \_ The cops worked on it for 5 years before the warrant was
                 served.  Which means they were probably running if for
                 10.  If they had kept their heads down and quit when
                 they were ahead.  They could've gotten away clean.
                 \- i met a fellow at a dinner party recently who was in
                    the marijuana business on a moderate scale [he isnt
                    retired but it paid the bills] in NYC and Boston and
                    his view was you pretty much have to get out soon because
                    no matter how careful you are some of the flakey people
                    who have to deal with will either be turned or will
                    slip up. i would think you could find people by applying
                    FREAKONOMICS type techniques but we probably dont care
                    enough to do that [e.g. by looking at electricity
                    consumption etc].
                    \_ Or they could spend gvt. dollars on something more
                       worthwhile than arresting people who grow a plant.
                       \_ Don't try to apply logic to the War on Drugs.
                       \_ Yeah, like catching all those music pirates!
                          \- i am not necessarily advocating more stringent
                             crackdowns on dope fiends and more than i think
                             crackdowns on dope fiends any more than i think
                             we should necessaily be more aggressive about
                             speeding or illegal immigration when i dis-
                             passionately comment on things like photo-
                             speeding tickets, speed traps, cracking
                             down on employers of illegal aliens etc.
                             if anything it is interesting to see the
                             data mining potential for things like
                             SAFETYWAY CLUB cards. years again some
                             "acquaintances" bought a mirror and some
                             razor blades at the college ave safeway
                             razor blades at the college ave 7/11
                             at something like 3am. i'm not saying that
                             should be probably cause for a search warrant
                             should be probable cause for a search warrant
                             but, it would be interesting to see the
                             empirical numbers. studies often show that
                             "intuition" is often a lot less accurate than
                             statistical decision making [e.g. from examples
                             of medical diagnosis to jury selection ... say
                             people over estimate what "body language"
                             people overestimate what "body language"
                             conveys vs say the zip code somebody lives in
                             as a predictor of prosecution/defense bias],
                             so some of this type of analysis may be much
                             better than informal/naive "profiling". like
                             the spped trap law seems to say "if i try to
                             the speed trap law seems to say "if i try to
                             measure the speed more scientifically that is
                             illegal" as opposed to letting "trained" cops
                             eyeball you. this anti-technology rules are
                             probably to preserve discretion in teh system
                             eyeball you. these anti-technology rules are
                             probably to preserve discretion in the system
                             so police/judges can get rid of tickets
                             for friends/insiders. i agree the deference
                             to the media industry and capturing of
                             public policy to private ends in this area
                             is an abomination. we have good evidence they
                             were sending theatening letters based only on
                             the "prima facie" evidence of having some
                             common p2p [ephemeral] ports open. ok tnx.
                             \_ Encore! Encore!
                                \_ psb, do you have a blog?
                                   \- i do not know how to blog but i blog
                                      about cheese and antibiotics.