2/3     Amazing view, simply amazing:
        http://tinyurl.com/bdz5o (forbes.com)
        \_ No backyard.
           \_ These are all like living in a hotel. I don't see the
              allure, except for perhaps the one in NYC where there are
              no real alternatives nearby.
              \_ yes you're absolutely right. Every single person on this
                 planet prefers living in the suburb that's nice and
                 big and quiet and have huge backyards. People who think
                 otherwise are dim-wits, like the ones who live
                 in the city.
                 \_ I never said that. I said that it's like living in
                    a hotel. The city is fine, but paying $15 million
                    to live in a hotel isn't my cup of tea. Most of those
                    cities (except NYC) have pretty nice housing
                    available, so why live in a hotel except for the view?
                    \_ some people prefer the view over other things. Somehow
                       you seem to think that people like what you like.
                       In case no one ever pointed this out to you, you
                       seem pretty narrow minded and above all, dim-witted.
                       \_ I'm just expressing an opinion. Why do you have
                          a problem with that? You seem like the
                          narrow-minded one.
                    \_ It's..."different".  We have a penthouse in Santiago
                       that looks over the city (no, not anywhere even near
                       any of these places, but a nice duplex that we got a
                       good price on during our stay here.)  It's furnished
                       and has maid service, but it's not like a hotel at all.
                       I'm used to both houses in the countryside and city,
                       as well as apartments, and it's just something you get
                       used to.  And frankly, if I had the kind of wealth that
                       let me blow $15 million on a place that I really really
                       liked, why not?  -John
                       \_ Anyone blowing lots of money on condos, apartments,
                          and such either has no financial sense, or is
                          just stupid. If I had so much money I'd invest
                          in a nice single family home where I have a lot of
                          space and freedom, where I have a nice
                          garage to do garage/repair work, a nice yard with
                          dogs (you can't have pets in the city), and a
                          nice driveway where I can wash my car. When you
                          live in the city, you have no privacy and you
                          have no freedom.
                                        -pp and I maintain that the
                                         city life is for stupid people
                          \_ I guess arguing with someone as open-minded
                             as yourself is going to be rewarding, but then
                             again, it's nice that you are so clear about
                             your preference in housing choices.  This sounds
                             vaguely like the bitter people you see scoffing
                             at the guy having a great time in his Ferrari
                             (who doesn't realize they're there.)  And by
                             the way, we're getting a dog, my building has a
                             nice clean car wash space, I have no neighbors
                             peering over my fence, and a whole city's worth
                             of space.  But your choice, more for me.  -John
                             \_ You must be a young yippie who loves to
                                drink latte and capuccino and likes to wear
                                nice designer clothes. Above all else you
                                probably never exerienced marriage and
                                have no kids. The city is big enough for
                                single men like you but one day you will
                                mature and your perception will change,
                                drastically. My word of advice to you--
                                be prepared. You're still young, and stupid.
                                                        -pp
                                \_ how come with all that space in the
                                   suburbs, 60% of Americans are classified
                                   as obese?
                                   as obese and overweight?
                                   \_ Because a huge number of them live in
                                      tightly packed cities and don't have
                                      enough space to "stretch their legs"?
                                      \_ How come obesity is especially
                                         prevalent in the midwest and less
                                         common in bigger cities like NY,
                                         Boston, etc.?
                                         \_ Because 43.74% of all statistics
                                            are made up on the spot, except
                                            on the motd where that number
                                            rises to a statistically confirmed
                                            86.263%.  Are you done making shit
                                            up yet?
                                            \_ This is common knowledge.
                                               You need to read more, or be
                                               You the to read more, or be
                                               more observant.   check out
                                               indiana, michigan, wisconsin,
                                               illinois, ohio.  compare with
                                               new york, massachusetts.
                                               midwest == fat.  ok south
                                               even fatter:
                                               http://tinyurl.com/3rfta
                                               \_ Now go find statistics that
                                                  say *who* is fat.  It is
                                                  poor people due to shitty
                                                  fast food diets.  You need
                                                  to understand your statistics
                                                  not merely blindly quote
                                                  them.  Stat 2.
                http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/2269064/detail.html
                                \_ If you have enough money, you can have
                                   all the space you need, even in the city.
                                   -40 year old, married with kids living
                                    in The City and loving it
                                    \_ Alright I've been trolled enough.
                                       All I have to say is that you're old
                                       and still stupid   -pp
                                    \_ Exactly, which is why I don't
                                       really like these glorified hotel
                                       rooms. The exception (as I said
                                       before) is NYC, where apparently
                                       $70 million still won't get you
                                       anything but a (huge) apartment.
                       \_ Are houses (and penthouses) more affordable
                          in Santiago? Are we talking about Chile or
                          Dominican Republic Santiago, Panama Santiago,
                          Minnesota Santiago USA, Spain Santiago Compost,
                          Cuba Santiago, or Argentina Santiago del Estero?
                          \_ Pedant!  :)  Yes, Chile, and they're vastly more
                             affordable than in the US.  -John
        \_ I used to work at a company that occupied the whole penthouse of
           the Great Western Building on Shattuck.  Not much view, though.
           \_ Gee, that's what ... a short bldg in the middle of Berkeley?