Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 41701
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2006/2/4-5 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:41701 Activity:moderate
2/3     http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20060203/cm_ucrr/iraqscivilwarhascost3000perusfamilysofar
        Iraq's war has cost every family only $3000 so far. That's actually
        not too bad...
        \_ Yes it is too bad.
        \_ Counting for inflation the Iraq war has cost more than the
           13 years the United States was in Vietnam.
        \_ If this were an ideal world, we should have a democracy where
           all the pro-war advocates should have to foot the bill for the
           Iraq war, and the anti-war people don't have to pay a single
           cent.  I find it absurd that I will be paying extra taxes over
           the next XYZ years to help fund this illegitimate war and get
           us out of our federal deficit.  It's been an absolute waste
           of money, not to mention immoral.
           \_ You don't understand what democracy is.  I find a lot of the
              things my tax dollars are wasted on absurd but in our democratic
              republic we don't get to vote ourselves goodies directly.  We
              have to bribe public officials to direct other people's money
              to us indirectly.  In direct democracy people would soon be
              voting themselves other people's money without the middle man
              who at least makes some pretense of trying to run the government
              properly.  Mob rule/democracy is nothing like ideal.
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news.yahoo.com/s/ucrr/20060203/cm_ucrr/iraqscivilwarhascost3000perusfamilysofar
But perhaps it is worth mentioning that the liberation of Iraq is now costing more each month than the preservation of the Republic of South Vietnam did more than 30 years ago. As the admitted direct cost of the war reached $250 billion last week -- and the White House asked for $120 billion more on Thursday -- new analyses estimate that the invasion of Iraq could end up costing $2 trillion before it is over. If you remember, the White House's own economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsey, was fired for predicting, in September 2002, six months before the invasion, that the total cost of the war might reach between $100 billion and $200 billion. What I (and perhaps others who questioned the wisdom of the war before it began) remember is the hundreds of e-mails and letters I received after I quoted Lindsey and used the higher figure as more likely. "Moron" and "traitor" were among the more polite epithets of the day. Some, such as the long-term cost of treating damaged survivors of battle, can be exaggerated or minimized. Some can be hidden in other budgets or drawn from confusing off-budget accounts. The Washington issue is that the Bush administration has been lying from day one about the cost of this "preventative" war of choice. The original White House estimate of the total war cost was $75 billion, including the destruction of all Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction." World Bank , even offered the theory that the war would be self-financing, paid for by Iraq's oil production. The war, in fact, is a factor in the escalating cost of petroleum products here and everywhere else in the world. Leaving that aside as you watch the gas-pump digits rise to Super Bowl numbers this weekend, two anti-war research institutes, the International Relations Center and the Institute for Policy Studies, estimate that the war's cost per citizen has reached $727 -- or close to $3,000 for a family of four. By the end of this year, those figures should reach about $1,300 per citizen, or more than $5,000 for that family of four. That calculation was based on a very conservative estimate of war costs to date of $204 billion. But even with that low-balling, those billions could have provided health care for 46 million Americans without health insurance, the hiring of 35 million elementary school teachers, or the construction of 2 million units of affordable housing. It's money lost in the fog of war -- or perhaps it will be used to do wonderful things for us all by Halliburton and the other defense contractors and private militaries being paid to make Iraq into Iowa with oil. One of the lessons we supposedly learned in Vietnam was that foreign intervention can no longer prevail in civil wars. I happened to run into a couple of Americans just back from Iraq, one of whom had also served as a US Marine officer in Vietnam. Their verdict on what was happening in Iraq now was: "Well, we're exactly where we were determined not to be.