1/27 Justice Stevens is 86. Oh Fuck.
\_ Don't worry, once #$%^ hits the fan, people will start voting
Democratic again. Right now, people are just complacent.
\_ Ah yes, the D party isn't corrupt and incompetent
like the R party. And only the D party cares about the
environment, welfare, healthcare, minorities, and things
that matter to the people. D=good, R=bad, and spread the
word. I got your message. Thanks.
\_ Shit hits the fan everyday. We're not living in special times.
Yesterday is like today is like tomorrow.
\_ Yeah it sucks. He has to hang in there and we can't have another
whacko Repub Prez next term. If he resigns or dies it's going to
be an unpleasant 25-30 years. For the President it's good news,
just as we are facing the end of the empire, financial collapse
and a severe energy crisis the Supreme court will be all set to
give him all the power he wants.
\- justice stevens is suppose to be in pretty good health.
he's become by favorite justice. i think nobody talks about
hime being a super genius or anything but i think from his
long tenure he brings a lot of wisdom to his practical
decisions.
\_ People who agree with us a lot are always wise. BTW, how
did Stevens vote on Kelo?
\- you know STEVENS wrote the KELO opinion, right?
you know also he after the fact said that he thought
new london was likely doing the wrong thing as a
matter of legislative policy in this case but they
did have the right to do so in this case based on
his reading of established practice [this was in a
speech after the opinion came down]. similarly
STEVENS ruled congress had the power to overrule
state pro-marijuana laws eventhough he personally
though maybe they should stay out of regulating
this at the national level. --#1 STEVENS FAN
\_ I'm quite aware of who STEVENS is and what STEVENS
has done. It was a RHETORICAL question. One should
know that RHETORICAL questions, even about STEVENS
are not intended to be EXPLICITLY answered, even
if STEVENS or KELO are the topic. STEVENS wrote
a legal OPINION that the government has the right
to FUCK people out of their property and GIVE it
to some random fuck PRIVATE developer to build
GOLF courses on. Are you or STEVENS big fans of
GOLF? That was also a RHETORICAL question.
-- fuck STEVENS and his FANS
\_ USSC ruled it constitutional. The local
government made the law. Seriously, bitching
about the decision is stupid. If you want to
change it, talk to your representative. It will
take legislation to change it.
\_ Hmm, what did the USSC say about slavery?
The Constitution as originally written was
ok with it, so it must be ok!! Yay! Saying
that because the USSC ruled in a particular
way makes it right is what is stupid. Blind
allegiance to some politically appointed
body is stupid. Think for yourself.
\_ Suck it. You're complaining about Stevens
doing his JOB. I didn't say the SC ruling
makes it "right". In fact, Stevens made
exactly that point. So just fuck off.
\_ By your 'logic' we should still have
slavery and a bunch of other nastiness
and no right to abortion. "So just
fuck off"? If you can't back your
words with reason and login, then go
back to the play ground. The 6th
graders are waiting for you.
\_ You don't read too good, do ya?
The SC gives their reading of the
law. Stevens said he didn't like
what they were doing, but the law
as it stands makes it constitutional.
That doesn't mean it can't and
shouldn't be changed. You'd have a
hard time stretching Kelo to compare
to slavery. In fact, if you want
to compare Kelo to Dred Scott, it
took legislation to correct the
legally right/morally wrong decision.
And before you whine that it wasn't
"legally right", take it up with the
founders who defined the SC.
\_ Thanks for the basic civics
lesson. Care to explain how the
SC found the "right" to abortion
in the C? You can't. And when
it gets overturned who is going
to bitch loudest about it? The
SC makes up tons of shit based on
nothing. Nothing required them
to go with Kelo as they and in
fact IMNSOH their reading of the
law re: Kelo was flat out idiotic.
They made a wrong call on Kelo.
A later court is likely to do a
100% about face on this dog of
a ruling. It has certainly
happened before. Why would that
be if Constitutional interpretation
were as black and white as you
make it out to be? It isn't black
and white and your falling back on
"Well the SC said so, so it must
be a good ruling" is just silly.
At least if it was a unanimous
ruling you might have a leg to
stand on with a point like that.
The SC ruled for Bush in 2000.
Was that a good ruling? It was
7:2 and 5:4 on two different
issues both in Bush's favor. All
Hail The Absolute Wisdom Of The
Supreme Court! Yay!
\_ Hint: There's a reason I
brought up SCOTT. I never
said KELO was "good".
\_ Christ.. You people and Kelo.. Get the fuck over it.
Federalists should be happy. They granted local government
the permission to make their own choices about use of ED.
If you don't like what your local gov is doing, change it.
Personally, I don't like Kelo because ED should yield a
public commodity. Being able to use it to help a private
interest secure land makes it just an easy way to lock in
an artificially low market rate. But I suspect your
argument boils down to "gubmint wants to take mah land.."
\_ Who said I was a Federalist? I think it sucks that
any two bit bribable mayor or local council can force
people from their land and give it to some private
developer. What is so wrong about being opposed to
that? Your "suspicians" are cheap personal smear at
best and not useful to a discussion on Kelo, the SC
or anything else. If you want to know what my points
boil down to, you can read them and ask for
clarification without being an ass about it.
\_ "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance"
\_ Property rights are important, but why are property
rights and gun ownership rights the only ones worth
defending? Alito will likely take them *all* away if
the executive wants it. |
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