1/30    In other news, GOOG super-engineers have fixed the case-sensitivity
        censoring feature bug at google.cn
        \_ Don't be evil unless your shareholders want more, in
           which case you do whatever it is necessary to make the
           shareholders happy.                  -capitalism rules
        \_ Don't be evil, unless it's for China.
           \- dont you think all this picking on google is a bit of a
              double standard? i mean yahoo released the email info for
              a chinese person who has since been jailed, there are plenty
              of people neterting into mfgring agreements with sketchy
              of people enterting into mfgring agreements with sketchy
              people etc. i realize google sort of set itself up with the
              "dont be evil" bit but i'm not sure what you would rather
              have then do in this case. like tivo i guess is ok with
              hardware hacking to put in bigger drives but dont want to
              to hack the service side of things ... that seems reasonable.
              as opposed to say sony in the aibohack case etc.
              \_ Yes, that's precisely the issue.  Google says "don't be evil"
                 and then the go and be evil.  Hypocrites have been criticized
                 for a long time.
                 \_ google is following the local law.  in that regard, it's
                    not google's problem, no?
              \_ Google is under no obligation to expand into China.  It is
                 under an obligation not to do evil, if its motto is "Don't
                 be evil".  Necesse est eam, non est vivam.
                 \_ So is it more evil to have no google or to have a
                    censored google?  Seriously.
                    \_ It's better for me to have a semi-evil google over an
                       amoral google.  It is better for google to be moral
                       evil google.  It is better for google to be non-evil
                       rather than semi-evil, if its stated goal is not to
                       be evil.
                    \_ It's evil to cooperate with a government that crushes
                       human rights, yes.
           \_ or how about:  "don't be that evil", or "... if you can help it"
              Or Sergey could have just come out with:
              "Well, we decided to be evil in this case."
           \_ Tools are never inherently evil. "Every tool is a weapon if
              hold it right."
              \- doesnt it seem odd to be holding a company to a higher
                 standard than say your govt?
                 \_ I normally don't.  In google's case they asked to be
                    held to a higher standard.  I am just being obliging.
                 \_ I normally don't.  In fact, I prefer my companies profit-
                    maximizing (hence at least somewhat evil).  In google's
                    case they asked to be held to a higher standard.  I am
                    just being obliging.
                    \- i think this black and white view and overreading the
                       "dont be evil" is just silly.
                       \_ They made out quite well with the "do no evil" thing
                          until it was inconvenient.  As soon as it looked
                          like it was going to cost them money, they dropped
                          it like an old bag.  People hate hypocrites.  At
                          least Microsoft, Yahoo, Cisco, etc, never made any
                          obnoxious claims to be doing anything other than
                          making as much cash as possible with no moral
                          qualms.  People hate hypocrites.  And I believe now
                          is a good time to remind you that people hate
                          hypocrites.  Has anyone mentioned lately how much
                          people hate hypocrites?  --People Hating Hypocrites