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2006/1/28-31 [Computer/Networking] UID:41585 Activity:low
1/28    Just switched to Comcast from SBC and generally happy with it.  But
        can someone please explain to me why they are constantly pumping
        ARP traffic through the network?  It seems harmless, but I'm curious
        as I didn't see it with DSL.  It's a little disconcerting to see
        constant traffic on your router, even if ARPs are harmless from
        a bandwidth perspective, and it makes the WAN send/receive light
        basically useless.  Is there a cable modem I can get that won't
        forward these stupid things?  From reading around the net, all I see
        are vague references to the fact that Comcast's network configuration
        is such that all of their customers on a particular link will see
        all customers ARP traffic.
        \_ Further searching turns up this from 8 Dec 2005:
           "I'm a relatively new comcast customer, and also a network
           engineer. I'm not sure how they have their routers configured,
           but I get upwards of 10-20 arp requests per second during the day,
           and from 6:00 to midnight I get so many that packets start getting
           dropped. I recieve the arps from at least 5 different source IPs
           that appear to be routers (they all have ips that end in .1, but on
           different /24 networks. This leads me to believe that they are
           using multiple virtual IPS on the same interface of a single
           router, or that they have something bridging data between parallel
           networks (which should not be happening). Regardless, I'm trying to
           get some resolution. I can't imagine what would create a requirement
           for this level of arp traffic; it has to be a misconfiguration
           somewhere."
           \_ Good luck trying to explain this problem to their technical
              support staff! -another comcast user
        \_ would you recommend SBC DSL or Comcast cable?  Is DSL really
           that much cheaper?
           \_ My brother is getting 2 mbps down off his Dslextreme line for
              $20/month on a yearly subscription.  I'm getting 2 mbps (yes,
              I know Comcast advertises more, but that's my roughly measured)
              from Comcast for $50/month on month-to-month (Comcast doesn't do
              annual).  I'd switch to DSL in a heartbeat if it were available
              at my house.  The only thing nice about my Comcast feed is the
              pseudo-static IP (infinite dhcp lease, keyed off my mac address
              and their equipment, and neither changes all that often).
              \_ For what it's worth, I'm getting 6 mbps downstream from
                 Comcast pretty consistently.  Oddly, using a Belkin router/
                 firewall in between the cable modem and my network cuts
                 it to about 5 mbps.  The Belkin's WAN activity light was how
                 I originally found all the frickin' ARP traffic.  Is it
                 possible the overheard of blocking the ARPs is slowing the
                 (admittedly very cheap) Belkin down?  --ARP traffic guy
                 \_ My segment get continuous arps but not *that* kind of
                    traffic.  I get 1 or 2 per second at most.  Sometimes it
                    fades off a bit to 1 every 3-5 seconds.  How many are
                    you getting?
                    \_ It fluctuates, but I'm seeing roughly 5 to 10 a second.
                       From what I've read, Comcast does configure it's
                       customers into very large LANs, and that you'll
                       tend to see more of the ARPs when some of the people
                       on your LAN are infected with something like Code Red.
           \_ I'm over 20,000 feet from the nearest DSL POP so cable is my
              only choice.  The pseudo-static IP changes about once every
              15 months which isn't too horrible and the service itself has
              been quite reliable overall.  It is pricey but when dialup is
              your only other choice....
              \_ Ha!  I'm only 13k feet from the nearest CO.  Of course,
                 according to SBC, I have steel pairs running to my house
                 instead of copper, and DSL will never happen till they
                 rip up the sidewalk to swap to copper.
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