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2005/12/21-22 [Reference/Religion, Recreation/Media] UID:41106 Activity:high
12/21   emarkp, did you ever see the South Park episode about the Mormons?
        They make the Joseph Smith story look pretty ridiculous.  Are they
        misrepresenting it in any major way?  If so, how?
        \_ Didn't see it--don't watch South Park.  jrleek gave a short review
           of it a while back:
           http://csua.com/?entry=36159
           [addendum: I typically don't turn to comedy cartoons for historical/
           factual insight.] -emarkp
           -emarkp
           \_ Ok thanks. By the way I thought you hate kchang's guts and
              you're boycotting his crappy web site, why are you using
              it now?
              \_ I wasn't boycotting it, nor do I hate his guts.  I find the
                 archive quite useful, but the "guessing the identity" feature
                 to be a serious problem (which is part of the "diff" part, not
                 the archive proper).
                 \_ I find no distinction between his crappy products. If
                    one part of his program is poorly written, how can you
                    trust other parts of the program, such as the archiver?
           \_ Thanks for the link.  Do you have a URL to an accurate summary
              of the Mormon take on historical events that the tablets/BoM/
              whatever talked about?
              \_ I can point you to historical overviews of the LDS church from
                 the LDS perspective.  Critics will say that we're hiding the
                 ugly parts of history, but I've never seen an even-handed
                 handling of the religion and history.  I've heard good reviews
                 of a new book called "Rough Stone Rolling" which is supposed
                 to be precisely that, but I haven't read it yet. -emarkp
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I'm a bit bothered by the way South Park disses at other religions... I don't know anything about religion and I'm wondering how much of South Park's story is really true, and how much of it is made up for entertainment value. As opposed to what, christianity, where Jesus has a talk radio show and screwed Cartman's mom? Please identify the religion you think they're not making fun of in South Park. They haven't really made fun of Buddhism and Shintoism yet... As I recall, it was about what you would expect out of SP. For the first 15 minutes, from a 50,000 ft view, the big events were more or less correct. ie, Joseph Smith was directed by an angel to a set of gold plates containing the religious history of a people formerly on the continent; As much can be read in the introduction to the Book of Mormon. The details, however, were all completely confused, made up, or twisted beyond recognition. The history of the church is recorded in a number of first hand accounts, if you are interested. Currently I'm reading an account by Joseph Smith's mother, which is a pretty good read. Unfortunatly, the LDS church is a point of contention, and anything you find on google would either be all for it, or all against it. At some point you're always going to find something that you will try to explain or discount using methods, either through critical heuristics or unquestioning belief, which someone else will take issue with.