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12/12   http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/12/07/WILLIAMS.TMP
        "The prosecution's case was based on circumstantial evidence and the
        testimony of witnesses 'whose credibility was highly suspect,' U.S.
        District Judge Stephen Wilson wrote in 1998."
        ... while upholding the jury's verdict, because the jury >> appeals
        judges, unless you find a technical problem in the trial, new evidence,
        or persuasive evidence the jury was on crack, etc.
        \_ And?
           \_ "Four years later, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals voiced
              similar qualms, saying the prosecution had relied on witnesses
              with 'less-than-clean backgrounds and incentives to lie' to win
              lenient treatment for their own crimes." (also upholding the
              conviction)
              \_ And he loves animals and writes children's books, found
                 Jesus on death row and is a 5 time Nobel Peace Prize
                 Nominee!  Free Tookie!
                 \_ And at 12:01 he'll meet Jesus.
                 \_ strawman
                    \_ it isn't a strawman.  it is mockery.  and i fart in
                       your general direction as well!
                       \_ strawman + mockery
                          \_ a strawman is a lame debate method.  i'm not
                             debating or attempting to score points by
                             saying you said those things and then knocking
                             them down.  i am mocking you.  mock, mock, mock!
                             we are the knights who say mock!   mock!  what a
                             great word!  mock!  say mock! 10 times, fast.
                             \_ whatever you say ...
                                \_ here's an example of a different yet
                                   equally lame debate method.
                                   \_ no, it is not a debate method.
                                      i am mocking your attempt at mockery.
                                      \_ you're attempting but failing.  go
                                         look up "mock".  perhaps if you knew
                                         what mockery is you'd be able to do
                                         it.  thanks for joining us today.
                                         \_ It must be strange to take so much
                                            joy in the death of another human
                                            being. One that did not even do
                                            anything to you personally.
                                            \_ No it mustn't. Justice is good.
                                               \_ Last I checked, eye for an
                                                  eye is a crappy basis for
                                                  justice.
                                               \_ I can understand a sort of
                                                  grim satisfaction, but so
                                                  much overwhelming joy.
                                                  \_ Well I'm a different
                                                     poster and I wouldn't
                                                     call it joy. I think the
                                                     pp's mocking doesn't
                                                     necessarily == joy either,
                                                     he just doesn't care about
                                                     it enough to not joke.
                                                     Personally I know very
                                                     little about this guy but
                                                     he doesn't seem worth
                                                     caring about. Their
                                                     strategy was to turn his
                                                     case into a political
                                                     hurdle for the Gov.
                 \_ In fact he loves animals so much that he called the three
                    victims he killed "three oriental pigs".
        \_ You know, in an abstract way I am opposed to executions, but I don't
           think there's any reason to get especially incensed about this
           execution.  Becoming a cause celebre should not get you special
           treatment under the law.
           \_ I agree.  I am not especially incensed, but I am generally pissed
              off whenever someone is executed and there is some doubt that
              the guy did it or not.
              \_ What doubt was that in this case?  Have you read anything
                 that doesn't have an agenda?  The SF Comical is definitely
                 agenda territory.
                 \_ The idea that the SF Chronicle is a left-wing paper
                    is so completely out of touch with reality and history
                    that there's really no way to respond to it.  -tom
                 \_ SF Comical on Tookie:
                    http://csua.org/u/ea4
                    Not everything in the world fits into your little boxes.
                 \_ I read the DA's summary of events, and I read Ah-nold's
                    3-5 page statement.
                    3-5 page statement.  I'll give 12 jurors thought it
                    enough to be "beyond a reasonable doubt", but to me there
                    remains doubts.
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Williams' appeal denied (10/12/05) If Stanley Tookie Williams is executed on Tuesday shortly after midnight for four 1979 murders, his legions of supporters will say the state has killed an innocent man. If Williams is spared, Los Angeles County prosecutors and the relatives o f the dead will say a cold-blooded killer was granted the mercy that he never gave the victims. The record of Williams' case leaves enough room for each side to argue it s position of guilt or innocence with little chance of satisfying the ot her side's objections. Williams has maintained his innocence since the 1981 trial that sent him to death row, but he has been unable to produce the type of evidence tha t has led to exonerations in other cases -- DNA, a rock-solid alibi, rec anting witnesses or a third-party confession. Prosecutors maintain that the evidence against him was overwhelming. But the two federal courts that reviewed Williams' case did not appear to be overwhelmed, even though they upheld his convictions and death sentence . The prosecution's case was based on circumstantial evidence and the testi mony of witnesses "whose credibility was highly suspect,'' US District Judge Stephen Wilson wrote in 1998. Despite their reservations, neither Wilson nor the appeals court found an y reason to set aside the jury verdict in Williams' trial. Their rulings , and the verdict they reaffirmed, pose a formidable barrier to Williams ' effort to convince the public in general, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegg er in particular, that he is innocent. Williams' hopes of winning clemency from Schwarzenegger, who will hold a private hearing on the matter Thursday, could depend on his lawyers' abi lity to raise at least lingering doubts about his guilt. The worldwide c ampaign to save Williams' life has stressed his redemption as the Crips gang founder who became an anti-gang crusader, author of anti-violence b ooks for youths and broker of gangland truces. But clemency cases in other states suggest that only a credible claim of innocence has a chance of swaying a governor. "It's about the only ground in which governors grant clemency in the mode rn period,'' said Austin Sarat, professor law and politics at Amherst Co llege in Massachusetts and author of "Mercy on Trial,'' a book about cle mency. In recent decades, he said, "I know of no case in which a death row inmat e has been spared (solely) on the basis of post-conviction rehabilitatio n'' The witnesses The case against Williams depends, ultimately, on the credibility of pros ecution witnesses whom the jury found believable in spite of their unsav ory backgrounds. With no evidence that demonstrates his innocence, Williams and his suppor ters are left to argue that he was framed by witnesses who lied in excha nge for leniency and railroaded by a prosecutor who engaged in racist ta ctics. Williams was convicted of murdering Albert Lee Owens, 26, a clerk at a 7- Eleven in Whittier (Los Angeles County), who was ordered to lie on the f loor and then shot in the back during a $120 robbery on Feb. H e was also convicted of murdering Yen-I Yang, 76, and Tsai-Shai Yang, 63 , owners of the Brookhaven Motel in Los Angeles, and their daughter, Yee -Chen Lin, 43, all shot to death during a $100 robbery on March 11, 1979 . No fingerprints, blood or clothing at either crime scene connected Willia ms to the shootings. The main physical evidence against him was a shell casing at the motel, matched to Williams' shotgun by a sheriff's expert whose testing methods have been derided as "junk science'' by an expert hired by Williams' current lawyers. Last week, the state Supreme Court r ejected a defense request for new tests of the gun. The chief eyewitness was Alfred Coward, who took part in the 7-Eleven rob bery and was given immunity from prosecution. He testified that Williams had led a group of four men into the store, forced Owens into a storage room at gunpoint, shot the clerk and later laughed about it, imitating the sounds Owens made as he died. Another of the robbers, Tony Sims, did not testify at Williams' trial but implicated him at Sims' own murder trial, which resulted in a life sent ence. Other prosecution witnesses said Williams had confessed to one or both se ts of murders. Samuel Coleman, who was arrested along with Williams and was given immunity from prosecution, testified that Williams had admitte d to the motel killings. Williams' lawyers said that Coleman was not all eged to have had any connection with the killings and that it was never clear why he needed immunity. 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view archive LIES SO pervade the campaign waged to "save" convicted killer Stanley Too kie Williams that Williams and company don't even bother to cover their tracks when they say things they know aren't true. Arnold Schwarzenegger to grant him clemency, the Death Row inmate claimed in an interview Monday with MSNBC's fatuous Rita Cosby that he w as convicted by an "all-white jury." In fact, Williams' own clemency lawyers have stipulated that the jury tha t convicted him in the 1979 murders of Albert Owens, Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Sh ai Yang and Yee Chen Lin during two armed robberies was not all-white. I n the clemency petition, Williams' latest set of lawyers argued that pro secutor Robert Martin had kicked all African Americans off the jury. Whe n prosecutors produced a death certificate that showed that juror Willia m McLurkin was black, the lawyers noted in a reply that it doesn't matte r if McLurkin was black or part-black, because he "looked Filipino." com) feat ures a fact sheet that, while asserting that no African Americans were o n the jury, stipulates a Filipino and Latino served on the jury. Why did Williams say something that he knew wasn't true? In the MSNBC transcript of the Cosby interview, Williams, a co-founder of the Crips gang in South Central Los Angeles when a teenager, said, "I n ever ordered, nor have I initiated, any killings on my part, period." The not-guilty-of-murder quote flies in the face of the clemency petition 's "atonement" claim. To wit: Williams "has accepted responsibility, rep ented and done whatever he could, from where he is, to atone." No: Williams has done whatever he could to seem to apologize while dodgin g any consequences of admitting his crimes. Let me add a few things you may not know: The not all-white jury convicte d Williams after his alibi defense crumbled. Also, jurors had learned of Williams' plans for an armed escape from jail. The jury foreman testifi ed that when the guilty verdict was announced, Williams mouthed this thr eat to the panel: "I'm going to get each and every one of you mother -- ." Over the years as he appealed his conviction, his appellate lawyers claim ed that Williams did not receive adequate counsel because his trial lawy er did not use a diminished capacity defense, as Williams was brain-dama ged -- due to drug abuse, mental illness and head injuries. An appellate judge weighed in, "A mental-state defense would have contradicted (the alibi) defense by conceding petitioner's presence at the scenes of the m urders." Despite numerous appeals, various courts -- including the liber al Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals -- continued to uphold his conviction. His lawyers now laud Williams because he "refuses to make a false confess ion, knowing it could benefit him penally, (which) shows the strength of his character." What, then, of his character on the brain-damage dodge -- an odd defense for a man whom supporters hail as a jailhouse philosop her and co-author of children's books? Los Angeles City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo told me he sees Williams' lega cy as one of "death and violence" -- with more than 300 gang-related hom icides in Los Angeles alone each year. "No matter how he tries to distan ce himself from violent gangs, he helped create them," Delgadillo noted. Crediting Williams for denouncing gangs is sort of like praising tobacco companies for their anti-smoking campaigns. Delgadillo said: "I think the justi ce system has done its job and a jury of his peers found him guilty." Consider ing Williams' many claims to MSNBC's Rita Cosby that he is "innocent," a nd that "being able to live, it would allow me to prove my innocence." T hat can only mean one thing: That after the execution is stayed, William s will spend years filing more appeals. Back in 2000, when Swiss legislator Mario Fehr nominated Williams for the Nobel Peace Prize, Fehr told me over the phone that Williams "might not even have killed those four people. Fehr, you see, wanted to send the message to young people "that no matter what mistakes you have made in your life, you can change for the better." The Tookie-philes are so filled with their own uplifting message that the y are participating in a campaign to free a convicted killer. They can't really care that Williams gunned down four innocent people -- not when they are willing to embrace his lies and abet a cold-blooded killer's bi d to go free.