11/28   Watched Electra on cable. I was expecting a real turkey and
        was surprised to see that it wasn't, at least compared to the
        other Marvel films out there. The only ignificant gripe was
        that it was too long. Most of those flashback scenes could
        have gotten cut resulting in a better flow. According to the
        net: DD2 is a good possibility. Supposedly electra 2 is being
        considered as well.
        \_ I caught Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.  Definitely
           Charlie Kaufman's best film yet.
        \- editing becomes electra
        \_ yeah, batman begins actually had cheesier moments
        \_ yeah, batman begins was actually cheesier imo
           \_ batman begins had a lot going for it, but quite a bit that
              didn't really work.  it had enough that i hope they continue
              in this vein and work out the kinks.
        \_ you're kidding?  the cameraman spent half the film pointing at her
           flabby stomach.  maybe i saw a different film.
                  \_ Well, I wasn't thinking of it like a porn
                     flick. If you want that; try Entrapment.
                     I am thinking in comparing it to other superhero
                     films.
                     \_ I was trying to focus on the positive aspects of the
                        film.  "Flabby stomach" was the best it got.  The
                        acting sucked.  The fight scenes mostly sucked.  The
                       plot.. well I'd say it sucked but that implies it had
                       one.  Even the worst of the batman movies were better
                       because they actually attempted to entertain the
                       audience.  I'm not sure what this film was trying to do.
                        plot.. well I'd say it sucked but that implies it
                        had one.  Even the worst of the batman movies were
                        better because they actually attempted to entertain
                        the audience.  I'm not sure what this film was
                        trying to do.
        \_ Elektra.  God, I thought it was horrible.  The action was close-in,
           dark, and poorly choreographed... and that's really all there was to
           the movie.  You didn't really understand her motivation, powers,
           future...anything
                \_ This is actually something I can agree with. My
        original point was keeping in mind that all superhero
        movies are cheesy and campy. Its just puzzling considering the
        relatively good reviews that Batman begins got compared to
        other superhero moviews of late.  Yet it suffered from many
        of the same problems. The most vitriol seems to focus on
        Jennifer Garner which is similar to what Clooney got when he
        was batman (now that was just plain bad).
                \_ This is actually something I can agree with. My original
                   point was keeping in mind that all superhero movies are
                   cheesy and campy. Its just puzzling considering the
                   relatively good reviews that Batman begins got compared
                   to other superhero moviews of late.  Yet it suffered from
                   many of the same problems. The most vitriol seems to
                   focus on Jennifer Garner which is similar to what Clooney
                   got when he was batman (now that was just plain bad).