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2005/11/23-26 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40711 Activity:nil
11/23   I remember I read on the motd that Cindy Sheehan was crazy
        and her family all hated her. How come her sister just
        got arrested protesting outside the Bush Ranch? Is she
        crazy, too?
        http://csua.org/u/e2m
        \_ Have a cookie, troll.  This one is chocolate.
           \_ You don't seem to understand what troll means
              \_ Can one be guilty of trolling if intent-to-troll cannot be
                 shown?
                 \_ You may wish to read up on the legal doctrine of
                    'mens trolla'
        \_ She is crazy, and it was "many in her family" not all of them.
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan#Sheehan.27s_sister-in-law
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csua.org/u/e2m -> news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051123/pl_nm/bush_protesters_dc
click here The demonstration was timed to coincide with Bush's break at his 1,600-ac re (650-hectare) spread and the arrival of the accompanying White House media entourage. The group included Dede Miller, the sister of anti-war activist Cindy She ehan whose son was killed in Iraq and who became an icon for the peace m ovement after her 26-day vigil outside Bush's ranch in the summer. McLennan County sheriff's deputies warned the protesters -- who had pitch ed tents by the roadside -- and then arrested them for trespassing. After hundreds of demonstrators erected a tent city during Sheehan's Augu st protest, the county banned camping, parking and sewage receptacles al ong roads surrounding Bush's ranch, citing health and safety concerns. Protester Dede Miller , sister of anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, is arrested by McLennan County sheriff deputies near US President Geo rge W Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, November 23, 2005. A dozen Iraq war protesters were arrested on Wednesday as they tested a new ban on ca mping and parking on roads near Bush's Texas ranch where he is spending the Thanksgiving holiday. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan#Sheehan.27s_sister-in-law
She de scribed President Bush as being "detached from humanity" and said that " his mouth kept moving, but there was nothing in his eyes or anything els e about him that showed me he really cared or had any real compassion at all." She continued, "He didnt even know our names," asking "Who we'al l honorin' here today?" when he first entered the room, and then referri ng to her as "Ma" or "Mom". During the Presidential Inauguration in January, 2005, Cindy traveled to Washington DC to speak at the opening of Eyes Wide Open: the Human Cos t of War, a traveling exhibition created by the American Friends Service Committee that displays pairs of combat boots to represent every US m ilitary casualty. There she met other families who lost loved ones in Ir aq, and together they discussed the need to create an organization for s imiliar familes. January 2005 that seeks to end the occupation of Iraq and provide support for families of fallen soldie rs. As of August 2005, at least 63 other relatives of fallen soldiers ar e listed as members. Camp Casey by pitching a tent by the side of the road and announced her intention to stay, day and night, for the full f ive weeks, or until such a meeting is granted. PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel" and that he had "joined the Army to protect America, no t Israel." Sheehan claims that the email was modified by James Morris to support his own personal agenda, and that she did not write the stateme nts about Israel and a "PNAC Neo-con agenda." Two other individuals, Tony Tersch and Skeeter Gallagher, received a copy of Sheehan's email directly from her; both claim that the e-mail they received is consistent with Morris's story, rather than Sheehan's. William Rivers Pitt, she stated, "And most imp ortantly and devastatingly, this war is based on lies and betrayals. Not one American soldier, nor one Iraqi should have been killed. Common sen se would dictate that not one more person should be killed for lies. One of the people, my son, was more than enough for me and my family. First of all, because my first bo rn was killed violently, and second of all, because he was killed for a neo-con agenda that only benefits a very chosen few in this world. This agenda and their war machine will chew up and spit out as many of our ch ildren as they can unless we stop them now." She said, "this war is a catastrophe" and " we should bring the troops home and quit forcing the Iraqi people to pay for our government's hubris and quit forcing innocent children to suffe r so we can allegedly fight terrorism somewhere besides America. How abs olutely racist and immoral is it to take America's battles to another la nd and make an entire country pay for the crimes of others? US invasion of Afghanistan was "almost the same thing" as the Iraq war and that in both cases it was wrong to invade an entire country to fight an ideology that did not necessarily represent all of the people of that co untry. al-Qaida which is the group that attack ed us on 9/11," Sheehan replied, "Well then we should have gone after Al -Qaeda and maybe not after the country of Afghanistan." Similarly, Sheehan wrote that "C asey was killed in the Global War Of Terrorism waged on the world and it s own citizens by the biggest terrorist outfit in the world: George and his destructive Neo-con cabal." In an interview given to Mark Knoller of CBS, Sheehan states her belief t hat the Iraq War has made terrorism worse and referred to the foreign in surgents coming to Iraq as "freedom fighters". August 31, Sheehan wrote that "George is finished playing golf an d telling his fables in San Diego, so he will be heading to Louisiana to see the devastation that his environmental policies and his killing pol icies have caused. Recovery would be easier and much quicker if almost of the three states involved National Guard were not in Iraq." September 16, Sheehan likened the National Guard presence in New Orleans for Hurricane Katrina relief to that of occupied Iraq stating, " George Bush needs to stop talking, admit the mistakes of his all around failed administration, pull our troops out of occupied New Orleans and I raq, and excuse his self from power." Th e Times also reported that Ms Sheehan told the two officials she apprec iated their meeting with her. After the interview she said, "I think the y thought I'd be very impressed and intimidated that these two high-leve l officials came to talk to this little grieving mother, and that I'd le ave." 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