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11/22   DAmmit, where was this teacher when I was 14?
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051122/ap_on_re_us/teacher_sex
        \_ Why can't all pedophiles plea bargain like she did?
        \_ You're right. She is HOT HOT HOT ***DROOOOOL***
           Damn you I'm hard now, time to relieve myself...
           \_ *shrug* Each to his own, I guess.  While I wouldn't throw her
               out of my bed (as if that was a serious possibility) I don't
               think she's all that attractive.  Frankly, she looks kind of
               creepy to my eye.  -mice
               out of my bed (as if that was a serious possibility), but I
               don't think she's all that attractive.  Frankly, she looks
               kind of creepy to my eye.               -mice
        \_ Three years of house arrest?  How do you make a living if you aren't
           Martha Stewart?
           \_ Streaming Internet porn?
           \_ House arrest doesn't mean you're locked in your house 24 hours
              a day. She would most likely be allowed to go out to go
              to a job, buy groceries, etc.
              \_ what job? She's certainly not working in teaching any more.
                 Perhaps the Porn industry could put her to use...
                 \_ Maybe...
                    http://wizbangblog.com/archives/004476.php
           \_ Posting bathing suits in teens' magazines.  BTW are there teens'
              magazines specifically for male?
              \_ Yes.  Playboy.
           \_ I bet there's a possibly lucrative book deal in this for her.
              \_ I bet you didn't RTFA which says she agreed not to profit from
                 her crimes as part of her punishment.
        \_ "Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off
           because prosecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be
           too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave."  Attractive
                                        \_ that just means "white and
                                           middle class"
                                           \_ Perhaps in the general case.
                                              But in this specific instance,
                                              she is at least not ugly.  She'd
                                              probably be pretty hot if she
                                              loses some weight doing hard
                                              time.
           people get preferential treatment.
        \_ Check out the 2/8 motd thread on a similar case.  Devra Lafave's
           newly-wed husband's pics were all over the net.  I wonder how he
           walks around without people checking out his pants to see if he's
           inadequate.
        \_ When you were 14, depending on how old you are, she was either in
           highschool busy fucking highschool boys, or in your class, fucking
           the cool kids.
           \_ when I was 14, she was running around in her jammies.  i doubt
              she had even named her parts yet.  in my time the teachers were
              smart enough not to get caught....
        \_ Where's NAWBLA when you need them?
        \_ Back when I was 14, I found women in their 20s most attractive.  Now
           when I am 35, I still find women in their 20s most attractive.
           \_ When the women were in their 20s, they find non-geekazoids
              attractive. When they were in their 40s, they still
              find non-geekazoids attractive.
        \_ Why should what she did be illegal? IMO it's more a problem with the
           teacher-student power structure than the age of the boy. I don't
           really understand the rationale here. What if the boy was 16?
           \_ What if it were a male teacher and a female student?  What if
              it were a male teacher and a male student?  There are any number
              of reasons parents should be able to expect their school
              teachers to not be sexually involved with their children. -tom
           \_ age of consent is 16 in FL.
           \_ Um, the whole purpose of going to school is to learn math,
              science, grammar, civics, &c. not this sort of immorality.
              As a taxpayer, I certainly don't want teachers doing this
              sort of thing.
              \_ Clearly, you're a homo.
                 \_ I know you are a troll, but I said "teachers" so as
                    to include behavior by teachers of both genders w/
                    students of either gender. So how does that make me
                    a homo? And perhaps you should reserve judgment until
                    you hear my argument re 14th amend. equal protection
                    and garriage.
                    \_ If you're for garriage, you're a homo.  If you're
                       against garriage, you're a closet homo.
              \_ No, I agree teachers doing that kind of thing should be
                 fired. But I don't see why this should be _illegal_ with
                 prison sentences. Or in the general case, if she wasn't
                 his teacher.
                 \_ Because 14 year olds are children?  Have you actually
                    seen a 14 year old recently?
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Debra Lafave, 25, will serve three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty to two counts of lewd and lascivious batt ery. The former Greco Middle School reading teacher apologized during the hear ing, saying "I accept full responsibility for my actions." The boy told investigators the two had sex in a classroom at the Greco sc hool, located in Temple Terrace near Tampa, in her Riverview town house and once in a vehicle while his 15-year-old cousin drove them around Mar ion County. The boy told investigators Lafave told him her marriage was in trouble an d that she was aroused by the fact that having sex with him was not allo wed. He said he and Lafave, a newlywed at the time, got to know each oth er on their way back from a class trip to SeaWorld Orlando in May 2004. If convicted at trial, she could have faced up to 15 years in prison on e ach count. The plea agreement also was designed to resolve similar charg es pending in Marion County. Hillsborough Circuit Judge Wayne Timmerman said LaFave also will forever lose her teaching certificate, must register with the state as a sexual predator, may not have any contact with children including the victim, a nd will not be allowed to profit from the sale of her story or personal appearances. Prosecutor Michael Sinacore said the young victim's family wanted to get the case over with because of the intense public and media scrutiny. "We're happy that the victim's family can put this case behind them," he said. "The whole process has been very difficult, and we hope they can n ow resume their lives." After Tuesday's hearing, her attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said the plea wa s "a fair resolution of this case." Fitzgibbons said in July that plea negotiations had broken off because pr osecutors insisted on prison time, which he said would be too dangerous for someone as attractive as Lafave. He said then that she planned to pl ead insanity at trial, claiming emotional stress kept her from knowing r ight from wrong. Former middle school teacher Debra Lafave leaves the Hillsborough Cou nty Courthouse Tuesday morning Nov. Lafave, 25, whose sexual liais ons with a 14-year-old middle school student made tabloid headlines, avo ided prison as part of a plea agreement reached Tuesday. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.
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WTSP has transcripts and audio of the calls the boy made to t he teacher that were taped by police. She says, "Ewww, you think I'm weird," when he expresses concern about having sex without a c ondom. When the student tells her she can come over because his mother i s out she says, "Promise... LaFave's attorney, John Fitzgibbons, said that she will plead insanity. H e also said that LaFave has "some profound emotional issues." December 4, 2004 01:52 PM Obviously what we have here is the equivalent to "Sweeps Week." I'm having an impossible time getting upset about w hat this young tart has done. I know for sure if it were a 24 year old m an and a 14 year old girl I would be sufficiently outraged. Even if Debb ie (I think we can call her that) weren't so damn attractive I still don 't think I would feel the boy was taken advantage of. I'm thinking maybe there should be a required cou rse in junior high where a passing grade requires you get it on with a h ot young lassie like this one. I know I'm wrong on some level, probably every level but I've talked to o ther men who don't appear to be upset about this either. So I thought I would share this side of the twisted psychol ogy of men. December 4, 2004 02:07 PM I'm thinking maybe there should be a required course in junior high where a passing grade requires you get it on with a hot young lassie like thi s one. December 4, 2004 02:58 PM Some people don't seem to get it, because this was the opposite of a male teacher preying on a female student - try to put yourself in a parent's shoes; this teacher was in a position of trust, and parents need to rel y on teachers when their children are under their care. December 4, 2004 02:59 PM Logically you are correct Palmateer. However, as a man who was 14 once, I know that if the opportunity to share a ride with this teacher came my way, I would definitely not have passed it up. And the only scarring I would have would be the concern that it did not g et better after 14... December 4, 2004 03:36 PM For all of you preverts out there fantasizing about this sordid episode, consider this: from previous reports, it is clear that this woman is seriously messed up, emotionally and psychologically and bisexual. Now, is interesting because it means that she could have just as eas ily hit on a female student. The question is, what if you had a 14-year old daughter who was sexually used by a psychologically troubled bisexua l teacher at the school you were sending her to? Would you feel a) proud b) happy c) angry d) disgusted e) horny Discuss. I want to know what moron put that babe teaching 14 year old boys in the first place. The lack of common sense in the personel department of the school system has to bear some of the responsibility. December 4, 2004 04:15 PM - kqowen - You need to include "jealous" on the list to cover McGehee and me, and probably more of the male bloggers than will admit to it..... The decidedly bodacious "Debby" will gain her spot of fame, and the kid will be mondo popular with both sexes of his peers. December 4, 2004 04:32 PM Problem here is that this is the personification of about 80% of every ma les first sexual fantasy. It is terrible tough for me to feel sorry for the boy, I have a feeling the media and court attention is causing much more harm to him than she ever did. December 4, 2004 05:30 PM Sorry but I simply can't see this as merely some kind of masturbatory fan tasy a la Van Halen, nor do I subscribe to the assumption that the mastu rbatory fantasy depends on in order for it to work, namely, that it is p erfectly healthy and natural for adults to sexually prey on minors. Heal thy, normal adults simply do not do what this woman did. As previously s tated, she has a history of psychological and emotional problems and all she's doing is working them out on the kid. December 4, 2004 06:34 PM This is a simple case of an adult taking sexual advantage of a minor, one over whom she has power and influence, yet; I hope they treat this exac tly as they would if the genders were reversed. December 4, 2004 07:27 PM Hey, both my math and English teachers were hotties, but other than rare fantasy material, they were not my female peers or sexual objects. It wa s kinda a drag to have gym right after math though... Its a sad picture of one aspect of our society to see the circus this has turned into. Her problem needs to be handled in an in-patient psychiatric ward, not the courts or the medi a Besides betrayal of trust and authority/privilege, violence, sexually transmitted disease and rug burn or spinters can result from teacher/st udent intimacies. The boy may need some out-patient counselling, but pro tection from the media is problably more important if you have to rank t hings for him. And it will be a long time before he's likely to see anyt hing "better" (from the Cro-Mangnon male perspective touted above by oth ers, not the mature, real intimate love all us adult males crave, right? But you are putting your adult selves into the 14 year -old's shoes. As the mother of a 14 year-old son, all *I* have to say about this is: th at young woman is VERY LUCKY she didn't take advantage of MY son. December 4, 2004 11:13 PM There is a huge difference between fantasy and reality. I definitely can see where boys would fantasize about their teachers (or a sexy adult nex t door neighbor), and unfulfilled, look back on those fantasies with nos talgia as an adult. I would compare it with the so-called "rape" fantasy many girls/women hav e ... the fantasy of this sexy mysterious stranger just overwhelming the m.. Outside of media attention, this kinda of thing happens way too often. Wo rking in the judicial field, I've seen the ones that do come to attentio n of law enforcement. We had a female teacher/coach that secuded a 16 y/ o female student not long ago. Minor male students who ARE actually seduced by a female teacher are harmed by that seduction. It is not the stuff of fantasy lan d Look at what a piece of sorry humanity Vili Fualaau has become. a nd maybe tougher because we look out for the girls while sort of brushin g off what happens to boys. Adults who prey on children (pedophilia) or adolescents (ephebophilia) ha ve power and personal issues. December 4, 2004 11:23 PM i dont think anyone is saying this teacher shouldnt go to jail. most every 14 year old guy i have ever known would consider this si tuation a dream. The guy pro bably needs a bit of counseling on how to treat women now too. December 5, 2004 03:15 AM To put my comment into better perspective, there's a saying: "Youth is wa sted on the young." Meanwhile, wisdom and experience are wasted on tubby old guys like me. For those of us with RSS feeds that read this stuff during "work hours" ( on break, of course), we need to know IN THE HEADLINE if the topic is SA FE for work viewing! July 20, 2005 01:45 PM Look the kid got the ride of his life which I'm sure he's going to tell t o all his friends about for as long as he is alive and now everyone want s to wichhunt the babe to death. Its the dick that should be put into th e hole not the babe. We should sentence the babe to 2 years in Amsterdam 's red light district (that's Denmark for those inbreds in the bible bel t who think sex is for procreation) so she can cool her legs down and pu t a life time gag order on the boy. now anyone who says the y would not have tapped that ass because they were too young is probably gay, because i just don't care, i could be 5 years old i wouldn't be a bit shy about doing a fine bitch like this one.. what y'all dont realize is that children do have dicks and pussies, therefore, they have sexual feelings and pleasure. August 1, 2005 12:22 AM Most of us agree on the point that a 24 year old women sexually does not need to use a 14 year old boy. I do understand there are circumstances w here a woman/man over the age of 18 could force a minor into sex. If two 14 year olds engage in sex then even if it is consent or not no on e raises a voice. I just don't understand the age of consent thing these days. Did any of you so called parents or concerned citizens ever visit a local mall or a theater o...