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| 2005/11/15-17 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:40597 Activity:moderate |
11/15 Newsweek poll http://www.pollingreport.com/terror.htm "Would you support the use of torture ... if it might lead to the prevention of a major terrorist attack, or not?" Yes 58% No 35% "What if the use of torture ... makes it more likely that Americans will be tortured by our enemies? ..." Yes 36% No 57% Americans support torture if it might prevent a major terrorist attack ... yet do not support torture if it could lead to U.S. troops getting tortured ... Therefore, SECRET TORTURE FACILITIES!</troll> \- I'd like to see the results for "Would you support torturing an anti-abortion protestor who has planted a TICKING BOMB in a abortion-clinic/daycare?" \_ most pro-lifers do not support bombing of these clinics. (no one is in the abortion center at the time of the bombing) \_ "What if the torture would only be used on individuals with different religious beliefs/race than your own?" \_ Did everyone here see the "amazing stories" story in the 1980s about the broke couple who gets a visit from a man who gives them a box with a big red button. He tells them if they press the big red button "someone they don't know will die", and they will receive $100,000. They agonize about pressing the button for a long time and finally decide they need the money so they press the button. Like magic the man shows up with a suitcase full of cash immediately, and takes the box with the red button back. When they ask where the box with the red button is going, the answer is "To someone you don't know" \_ Bullshit. \_ "What if the torture would only be used on individuals with different religious beliefs/race than your own?" \_ Did everyone here see the "amazing stories" story in the 1980s about the broke couple who gets a visit from a man who gives them a box with a big red button. He tells them if they press the big red button "someone they don't know will die", and they will receive $100,000. They agonize about pressing the button for a long time and finally decide they need the money so they press the button. Like magic the man shows up with a suitcase full of cash immediately, and takes the box with the red button back. When they ask where the box with the red button is going, the answer is "To someone you don't know" \_ Yeah, I really liked that. I thought it was 'The Outer Limits', though. \_ I think it was Twilight Zone, and the ep name was "Button, Button". \_ I think it was Twilight Zone, and the ep name was "Button, Button". \_ Yeah I probably mixed up the name of the show ... Those 2 shows were very similar. \_ They were all pretty much the same basic concept. That was around the same era where "V" was such a big deal. I remember *really* liking that show (and, of course, "Something is Out There"). That was a great era of television, in some respects. \_ They were all pretty much the same basic concept. That was around the same era where "V" was such a big deal. I remember *really* liking that show (and, of course, "Something is Out There"). That was a great era of television, in some respects. \_ Along with "Tales from the Darkside" \_ Was that the show with that idiotic Crypt Keeper? \_ Tales from the Crypt. \_ Ah, right, that makes sense. Damn, so between 85 and 90 there were, what, 5 shows of that general type? At least 6 if you stretch out to 95 to catch "The New Outer Limits." Damn, so between 85 and 90 there were, what, 5 shows of that general type? At least 6 if you stretch out to 95 to catch "The New Outer Limits." \_ Freddy Kreuger was in V. \_ Right -- Willie, the semi-retarded alien. \- what was the movie that takes place in france that involves a guy paying somebody else to take his place in an execution (by the nazis?) or something like that? the tenth man or something name like that? famous movie. may have been a short story too. you may also wish to see the famous TROLLY PROBLEM. \_ Err, I'm thinking of the mid-80's scifi epic miniseries with Mark Singer about lizards that come to earth in the name of peace to steal our water, our women and our environmentalists. I don't...I don't think France was directly involved. Englund played a mostly sympathetic but rather meek alien that ends up defecting to the human side or something. \- i'm not thinking of what you are thinking of. \_ yes, I sort of got that sense :P \_ I find it funny that this political troll has turned into a discussion on sci fi shows. |
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| www.pollingreport.com/terror.htm All data are from nationwide surveys of Ame ricans 18 & older. Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates Internati onal. "We'd like your opinion of the way George W Bush is handling certain asp ects of his job. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handlin g terrorism and homeland security?" Approve Disap- prove Unsure % % % 11/10-11/05 45 49 6 9/29-30/05 51 44 5 9/8-9/05 46 48 6 8/2-4/05 51 41 8 3/17-18/05 57 35 8 4/8-9/04 59 35 6 3/25-26/04 57 38 5 2/19-20/04 65 28 7 . "Do you think the use of torture against suspected terrorists in order to gain important information can often be justified, can sometimes be jus tified, can rarely be justified, or can never be justified?" Often Justified Sometimes Justified Rarely Justified Never Justified Unsure % % % % % ALL adults 17 27 18 33 5 Republicans 25 34 14 24 3 Democrats 11 25 20 40 4 Independents 17 25 21 31 6 . "Would you support the use of torture by US military or intelligence pe rsonnel if it might lead to the prevention of a major terrorist attack, or not?" Would Support Would Not Support Unsure % % % 11/10-11/05 58 35 7 . "What if the use of torture by the United States makes it more likely tha t Americans will be tortured by our enemies? Would you support the use o f torture under these circumstances, or not?" Would Support Would Not Support Unsure % % % 11/10-11/05 36 57 7 . "Do you think the recent allegations about the use of torture by the Unit ed States have hurt this country's image around the world a lot, somewha t, not too much, or not at all?" A Lot Somewhat Not Too Much Not At All Unsure % % % % % 11/10-11/05 39 34 13 10 4 FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. "Which one of the following do you think is the most likely reason there have been no attacks by al Qaeda on the United States since the Septembe r 11 attacks? "When it comes to dealing with the war on terrorism, do you approve or di sapprove of the job George W Bush is doing?" Approve Disap- prove Unsure % % % 11/4-7/05 39 55 6 9/9-12/05 43 51 6 1/13-17/05 53 43 4 12/9-13/04 51 42 7 10/16-18/04 RV 50 46 4 9/17-19/04 RV 52 43 5 8/23-25/04 RV 53 42 5 6/04 RV 48 47 5 1/04 63 31 6 12/14/03 66 27 7 12/13/03 56 38 5 11/03 56 39 5 9/03 60 34 6 7/03 66 28 6 1/03 64 28 8 12/02 66 27 7 9/02 67 26 7 7/02 73 22 5 6/02 75 20 5 5/02 75 18 7 4/02 76 19 5 . "When it comes to dealing with the war on terrorism, which party do you t hink would do a better job: the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, or both about the same? If you think that neither would do a good job, p lease just say so." Democratic Party Republican Party About the Same Neither Unsure % % % % % 11/4-7/05 26 35 23 11 5 12/04 24 42 22 7 5 1/04 23 46 22 6 3 12/03 20 46 19 9 5 10/02 RV 13 49 27 6 5 . "As you may know, suspected terrorists and foreign fighters are being kep t at prison facilities that are located outside the United States but ar e run by the United States government. Do you think the Bush Administrat ion has taken the right course of action or has it gone too far in its i mprisonment and treatment of suspected terrorists and foreign fighters?" "Do you approve or disapprove of the way Bush is handling the US campai gn against terrorism?" Approve Disap- prove Unsure % % % 10/30 - 11/2/05 48 51 1 9/8-11/05 50 47 3 8/25-28/05 56 43 2 6/2-5/05 50 49 1 4/05 56 41 3 3/05 59 38 3 1/05 61 38 2 12/04 53 43 3 7/22-25/04 57 40 4 6/17-20/04 50 48 2 5/20-23/04 58 39 4 4/15-18/04 63 35 2 3/4-7/04 63 34 3 2/10-11/04 64 34 2 1/15-18/04 66 33 2 12/18-21/03 70 28 2 10/26-29/03 63 35 2 10/9-13/03 66 30 4 9/10-13/03 70 27 3 9/4-7/03 67 28 5 4/03 79 19 2 2/03 74 23 4 1/03 71 25 4 12/02 79 20 1 10/02 74 23 4 9/02 74 24 2 7/02 83 15 2 5/02 79 19 3 4/02 81 18 2 3/02 88 10 2 1/02 88 10 2 12/01 89 9 2 10/01 92 5 3 CBS News Poll. "Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W Bush is handling the c ampaign against terrorism?" Approve Disap- prove Unsure % % % 10/30 - 11/1/05 47 46 7 10/3-5/05 46 46 8 9/9-13/05 50 43 7 9/6-7/05 51 40 9 8/29-31/05 54 40 6 7/29 - 8/2/05 55 39 6 5/20-24/05 58 36 6 4/13-16/05 53 41 6 2/24-28/05 61 33 6 1/14-18/05 56 38 6 11/18-21/04 59 37 4 9/6-8/04 62 31 7 8/15-18/04 53 38 9 7/30 - 8/1/04 52 41 7 7/11-15/04 51 43 6 6/23-27/04 52 39 9 5/20-23/04 51 42 7 5/11/04 51 39 10 4/23-27/04 60 32 8 3/30 - 4/1/04 58 34 8 3/10-14/04 64 28 8 2/24-27/04 65 29 6 2/12-15/04 64 27 9 1/12-15/04 68 28 4 12/21-22/03 70 23 7 9/22-23/02 71 22 7 9/2-5/02 68 27 5 8/02 72 21 7 7/22-23/02 70 20 10 7/8-9/02 77 17 6 6/02 72 21 7 5/19-20/02 74 19 7 5/13-14/02 80 15 5 4/02 80 17 3 2/02 82 13 5 1/21-24/02 87 9 4 1/15-17/02 87 10 3 1/5-6/02 88 9 3 12/01 90 6 4 11/01 88 9 3 CBS News Poll. "How much confidence do you have in the ability of the US government to protect its citizens from future terrorist attacks: a great deal, a fai r amount, not very much, or none at all?" A Great Deal A Fair Amount Not Very Much None At All Unsure % % % % % 10/3-5/05 16 47 30 7 0 9/6-7/05 19 40 30 10 1 8/29-31/05 18 54 21 5 2 9/02 20 56 18 4 2 7/02 21 53 22 3 1 6/02 16 54 24 5 1 1/5-6/02 23 58 16 2 1 12/7-10/01 17 60 18 4 1 11/13-14/01 22 52 20 4 2 10/25-28/01 18 58 20 4 0 10/8/01 30 55 12 1 2 9/20-23/01 35 53 10 1 1 Newsweek Poll conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates Internati onal. "Four years after 9/11, do you think the federal government is better abl e to respond to another major terrorist attack, or not?" Better Able Not Better Able Unsure % % % 9/29-30/05 50 44 6 . "Do you think the creation of the Department of Homeland Security has mad e Americans safer, or not?" Safer Not Safer Unsure % % % ALL 45 49 6 Republicans 68 28 4 Democrats 29 63 8 Independents 40 55 5 NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart and Bill McInturff . "Do you think that the United States is adequately prepared for a nuclear , biological, or chemical attack, or not?" Is Is Not Unsure % % % 9/9-12/05 19 75 6 6/8-10/02 23 66 11 . "Do you think that, as a country, we are more safe, about as safe, or les s safe than we were before September 11th?" More Safe About As Safe Less Safe Unsure % % % % 9/9-12/05 31 37 31 1 8/23-25/04RV 41 31 27 1 9/02 38 41 20 1 ABC News/Washington Post Poll. N=1,201 adults nationwid e MoE 3 Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch. "How much confidence do you have in the ability of the US government to prevent further terrorist attacks against Americans in this country: a great deal, a good amount, only a fair amount or none at all?" A Great Deal A Good Amount Only a Fair Amount None At All Unsure % % % % % 9/8-11/05 14 27 41 18 - 8 /18-21/05 14 28 43 15 - 9/03 14 31 48 7 1 9/02 12 38 43 6 - 7/02 13 33 45 9 - 6/02 14 30 44 11 - 5/02 17 29 42 10 2 3/02 18 38 39 5 - 1/02 18 40 37 6 1 11/27/01 24 39 32 5 1 11/5-6/01 17 35 40 7 1 9/11/01 35 31 30 2 1 6/97 10 26 52 10 3 8/96 12 23 49 16 - 5/95 12 24 51 12 1 CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. "Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W Bush is handling terro rism? Approve Disapprove Unsure % % % 9/8-11/05 52 45 3 8/28-30/05 53 44 3 6/24-26/05 55 41 4 5 /20-22/05 55 40 5 4/1-2/05 57 40 3 2/25-27/05 60 37 3 2/7-10/05 55 42 3 1/7-9/05 58 39 3 11/7-10/04 60 37 3 10/14-16/04 57 41 2 9/24-26/04 62 36 2 8/9-11/04 57 40 3 6/21-23/04 54 44 2 6/3-6/04 56 43 1 5/7-9/04 54 43 3 5/2-4/04 52 45 3 4/16-18/04 60 39 1 3/26-28/04 58 39 3 12/5-7/03 65 33 2 9/8-10/03 64 34 2 8/25-26/03 66 31 3 1/31 - 2/2/03 71 26 3 . "How much confidence do you have in the federal government's ability to r espond to future terrorist attacks: a great deal, a moderate amount, not much, or none at all?" A Great Deal A Moderate Amount Not Much None At All % % % % 9/8-11/05 21 42 25 12 CBS News Poll. "Who do you think is currently winning the war against terrorism: the Uni ted States and its allies, neither side, or the terrorists?" US & Allies Neither Side Terrorists Unsure % % % % 8/29-31/05 38 39 15 8 7/29 - 8/2/05 40 38 17 5 1/14-18/05 39 41 17 3 11/18-21/04 44 38 12 6 9/6-8/04 41 38 14 7 7/30 - 8/1/04 37 38 18 7 12/03 52 33 9 6 3/7-9/03 45 34 14 7 3/4-5/03 41 33 16 10 2/10-12/03 38 39 18 4 1/03 32 44 17 7 11/02 31 43 20 6 10/02 34 47 14 5 . "Do you think Americans will always have to live with the threat of terro... |