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11/9 French PM announces raft of measures for riot-hit poor suburbs
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/11/08/afx2324420.html
\_ Thereby opening France up to yet another round of
"cheese-eating surrender monkey" jokes.
\_ Because you know, actually trying to solve problems is bad,
instead you are supposed to just make the conditions worse,
that always works!
\_ In the US, if we have a riot, we know to keep all of residents
in that area down for the next few decades. That'll teach them.
Except for sports riots. Those are okay by us! We'll clean those
up because the white folks would get upset if we didn't.
\_ Well, have they learned any foreign policy other than
appeasement?
\_ it's domestic policy - you have to end up living with these
people
\_ Not if you send them back where they came from. France,
love it or leave it.
\_ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4422422.stm
Apparently that's the policy. Thanks for censoring
this.
\_ So next time they want more handouts they just riot again?
\_ didn't they do that before the bigger riots?
are you sure these are handouts? (don't cherrypick
the package)
Anyway, in America we do it our way - National Guard
and more economic opportunity to begin with, and it
works (more or less).
In France they do it their way - no shooting at the
rioters, letting them do small-time rioting for
months/years, then finally giving them a real social/
economic pkg after their riot gets bigger.
All of a sudden applying the American method (shooting
them all) in France would probably make the situation
worse. Whatever works for them.
\_ I remember Napoleon uses canons against riot mobs,
that worked too... 200 years ago.
\- Ultima ratio regum. --louis xiv
\- Ultima ratio regum. --louis le grand |
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| www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/11/08/afx2324420.html The initiatives -- outlined before parliament the same day the government approved powers to declare a state of emergency in specified regions of the country -- aim to reduce chronically high unemployment in those sub urbs, provide better education and address entrenched racism. Villepin also said 'social imbalances due to an insufficiently controlled flow of clandestine immigration' would be tackled. Many of the areas affected by the initiatives are impoverished districts on the periphery of cities and towns populated predominantly by families which immigrated from France's former colonial possessions in Africa. The youths perpetrating the violence that has gripped the country since O ctober 27 are mostly drawn from the large Muslim communities that live i n the neighbourhoods. They have complained that, though often born in France, they endure racia l discrimination when looking for work, have poor-quality education and few economic options other than to participate in the trade in drugs and stolen goods that is rife. The copying, republication or redistribution of AFX News content, includi ng by framing or similar means, is expressly prohibited without the prio r written consent of AFX News. Stock quotes are delayed at least 15 minutes for Nasdaq, at least 20 minu tes for NYSE/AMEX US indexes are delayed at least 15 minutes with the exception of Nasdaq, Dow Jones Industrial Average and S&P 500 which are 2 minutes delayed. |
| news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4422422.stm Printable version France to deport foreign rioters Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy with French police in Toulouse Sarkozy said even foreigners with visas would be expelled if convicted Interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy has ordered the expulsion of all foreig ners convicted of taking part in the riots that have swept France for 13 nights. He told parliament 120 foreigners had been found guilty of involvement an d would be deported without delay. Police said overnight violence had fallen significantly - although troubl e still flared in more than 100 towns. The government has declared a state of emergency in Paris and more than 3 0 other areas to help quell the unrest. The northern city of Amiens was the first to impose an overnight curfew u nder the new powers, which came into force at midnight. Timeline: French riots The western towns of Rouen, Le Havre and Evreux and the French Riviera re gion have also said they will implement the measures. However the Seine-Saint-Denis region north-east of Paris, where the troub le started almost two weeks ago, said it would not impose a curfew after violence diminished for a third night running. Mr Sarkozy told MPs that non-French nationals - "not all of whom are here illegally" - had been convicted of taking part in the attacks. "I have asked the prefects to deport them from our national territory wit hout delay, including those who have a residency visa," he said. Petrol bomb Senior interior ministry official Claude Gueant said police had seen "a v ery significant drop" in the intensity of the unrest. The number of cars set alight across France overnight Tuesday to Wednesda y fell to 617, hundreds fewer than the night before. Send us your views Some 280 people were arrested and disturbances broke out in 116 areas, ha lf the number affected the preceding night. However, the authorities in Lyon said public transport would not run afte r 1800 GMT on Wednesday following a petrol bomb attack on Tuesday. The areas covered by the emergency powers extend from the English Channel to the Mediterranean, including Paris suburbs and major cities such as Lille, Marseille and Toulouse. The powers, which can be extended by parliament after 12 days, allow a st ate of emergency to be declared in defined areas, restricting the moveme nt of people and vehicles. Police are entitled to carry out house searches and ban public meetings. Minors are subject to the law between 2200 and 0600 (2100 and 0500 GMT) u nless accompanied by an adult, and are also banned from buying petrol. Maps of the riots Nearly three out of four French people support the powers, according to a poll published in the daily Le Parisien newspaper. But some opposition parties, and the French magistrates association, have described them as a danger to civil liberties. The far-right French politician Jean-Marie Le Pen told the BBC that riote rs should have their French citizenship revoked. The nightly protests have gripped deprived areas where unemployment is ri fe and residents complain of racism and discrimination. The unrest was first sparked by the deaths in the run-down Paris suburb o f Clichy-sous-Bois of two youths, who were accidentally electrocuted at an electricity sub-station. The emergency powers handed to local authorities have been invoked under a 1955 law. This is the first time they have been implemented in mainlan d France. |