11/8 tom holub
\_ ilya shpitser
\_ david bushong
\_ charlie root
\_ geordan rosario
\_ Hi! -geordan
\_ peter mardahl
\_ (what does this list of names represent?)
\_ People who were at yermom's last night. -John
\_ Evidence that the price of green in Berkeley is Way Too High.
\_ So, someone said something threatening toward amckee, like
instituting a blacklist saying "do not hire amckee". amckee
used KAIS MOTD identification to turn off someone's account,
someone who turned out to be innocent because KAIS MOTD's
identification was in error. The Politburo sent mail to
kchang asking him to turn it off, with wording that some
inferred to mean "turn off the ident feature or else."
kchang just took the whole thing down. Clear enough? --PeterM
\_ Thanks, peterM
in my innocent eye, kchang has nothing to do with this at all.
he has repeatly, and clearly labled that his "name attribute"
logging feature is not accurate. I don't think it's kchang's
problem when someone falsely put faith on that feature, no?
kngharv
\_ Yes, I understood clearly that kchang's naming
feature was not accurate. In fact, his feature
misattributed to me things I didn't say (other
things it got right). Nevertheless, I liked the
feature: it's fine if you understand the quality
and uncertainty of the data. --PeterM
\_ It's a GOOD thing that the archiver is down. Some of
the comments amckee made could be really damaging
to him in the future. Ditto with tjb and ilyas.
\_ my motd archiver is still going strong. -ERicM
\_ it was not a threat, it was an retaliation. I personally
made sure that amckee will never get hired by Google,
Intel, IBM, and countless other companies. I love networking.
\_ This seems inappropriate to me. If you think the guy is so
vile that he needs to blacklisted, don't you think that
he'd do a good job shooting himself down in interviews? If
you think you need to do MORE then it's clearly personal and
not professional. Alot can be said of amckee, but I don't
think this sort of retaliation based on motd content is
reasonable.
\_ It's often difficult diagnosing personality disorders in
an interview.
\_ Yeah, the evidence is that psychopath blacklister
guy got hired.
\_ Honestly, I wouldn't hire either of them, but knowing
what I do, if I had to choose I think I'd hire
amckee over the blacklister guy, but because at least
amckee is honest, and blacklister guy is basically
a cowardly grudge-holding bastard.
\_ I have personally contacted God, and I've made
sure no one from Earth is going to Heaven.
\_ you also seem to love hyperbole.
\_ Just curious--how could you _make sure_ that these
companies won't hire someone? Won't that imply these
companies maintain a blacklist themselves?
\_ I hope I never come across you in my professional life.
Blacklisting is vile. --PeterM
\_ Ditto. To pp, go fuck yourself. -John
\_ not exactly smart signing your name.
\_ What, so I'm supposed to cower in fear
of the blacklister? What is he going to do, put
me on a blacklist for being anti-blacklists? Or
is he going to invent some slander/libel? --PM
\_ It's not only "motd content", but the personal
threats made to some people, and the lack of
any apologies. Look at the psb web site for the
hysterical rantings -- "I will file a restraining
order" "Your friends will not be able to help you"
"The CSUA is a Stalinist Empire and I am Uncle Joe"
"I am keeping a log of your actions" "psb you have
been a hoser by spamming the csua@@csua mailing list"
"the full scrutiny of contract law" "alumni on our
servers is clearly in violation of campus policies"
"I am the resident asshole". I doubt the earlier
poster has the power to have amckee banned at several
large companies, but one can point to the very words
written by amckee.
\_ So you've appointed yourself judge, jury, and
\_ So he's appointed himself judge, jury, and
executioner, and decided that establishing a
precedent for intimidation and execution of
threats on the motd was a more rational and
responsible behavior? How is that supposed to
be good for the motd community as a whole?
Honestly, I think you're the one that should be
sorried here since you not only made threats, but
seem to have actually carried through on them.
Honestly, I think he's the one that should be
sorried here since he not only made threats, but
seems to have actually carried through on them.
Uh oh...have I just made myself a blacklist
candidate, now too?
\_ Politburo sent kchang a couple e-mails asking him to turn off
the ID feature, or at least put a big disclaimer about its
(in)accuracy. kchang did not respond to Politburo e-mail and was
threatened by a Politburo member that he may be sorried if he didn't
write back. kchang decided to turn off the archiver entirely.
\_ This is in the context of a CSUA president who threatened to
turn off the accounts for at least two more people, never
apologized to them, and did a lot of semi-unstable ranting
documented at http://home.lbl.gov:8080/~psb/Articles/CSUA
and the request-like rather than threat-like nature of the mails
was not communicated to kchang. And some of the communication
was from non-politiburo persons.
\- what sort of moron would try to outthink psb? ok tnx. --#1 fan
\_ What sort of moron would try to outthink psb? --#1 fan
\- psb for president-4-life -- #2 fan
\_ !psb -John
\_ I think !psb may be a popular candidate at the next
politburo elections. -gm |
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