Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 40470
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2005/11/7-8 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:40470 Activity:low
11/7    "We do not torture." -GW Bush (Nov 7 2005)
        It depends on what the meaning of "torture" is.
        \_ It depends more on what the meaning of "we" is. Much of
           the torture has been outsourced to private corporations or
           foreign governments.
           \_ But the foreign governments promised us they wouldn't torture!
        \_ http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=2444
           Bush says we do not torture, yet he opposes a law banning torture.
           Does this make sense to anyone?
           \_ Of course, this is bush we're talking about, remember?
           \_ It helps if you visualize a lying sack of shit.
           \_ It depends on what the meaning of "torture" is.
           \_ If you have the freedom to do something, you then have
              the choice to not do that something. If that something
              is banned, you can never do it legally. Surely this
              makes sense to you pro-choice ppl.
              \_ Gee, why have any laws at all?
        \_ "We do not torture, and the video evidence hates America."
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The Realist Persuasion: Andrew Bacevich Quotable True patriotism hates injustice in its own land more than anywhere else. An unmuzzled dog appears to be used to frighten a detainee at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. Two military dog handlers told investigators that intelligence personnel ordered them to use dogs to intimidate prisoners. A baton-wielding US soldier, appears to be ordering a naked detainee covered in a "brown substance" to walk a straight line with his ankles ha ndcuffed. A US Soldier in a flak jacket appears to be using both hands to restrain a dog facing an Iraqi detainee in the Abu Ghraib prison. In what appears to be a hallway, a hooded detainee, seems to be handcuffed in an awkward position atop two boxes. The frame seems to show the prisoner's ankle cuffed to the door handle be hind him. ABC News has obtained two new photos taken at the Abu Ghraib prison i n Iraq showing Spc. Sabrina Harmon posing over t he body of a detainee who was allegedly beaten to death by CIA or civili an interrogators in the prison's showers. Janice Karpinski, in charge of the occupiers detention facilit ies throughout Iraq, has been dismissed from her post, and 6 US soldie rs face charges. Below, Brigadier-General Janis Karpinski, who was responsible for militar y jails in Iraq, and has now been suspended in the abuse probe, meets wi th Donald Rumsfeld. CBS says that it has t welve of these photographs, though there are dozens more. Among them: The Army has photographs that show a detainee with wires attached to his genitals.