thinkprogress.org/2005/10/23/hutchinson-technicality
Bill Kri stol left off: I certainly hope that if there is going to be an indictment that says so mething happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perj ury technicality where they couldnt indict on the crime so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation were not a waste of time and dollars.
Hmm, like the technicality that the Repu blicans spent a year or two using to attempt to shoehorn Bill Clinton out of office? The technicality which they built Article One of his impeachment charges around? On August 17, 1998, William Jefferson Clinton swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth before a Federal grand jury of the United States. Contrary to that oath, William Jefferson Clinton willfully provided perjurious, false and misleading testimony to the grand jury concerning one or more of the following: the nature and details of his relationship with a subordinate Government employee; prior perjurious, false and misleading testimony he gave in a Federal civil rights ac tion brought against him; prior false and misleading statements he allowed his attorney to make to a Federal judge in that civil rights action; and his corrupt efforts to influence the testimony of witnesses and to impede the discovery of evidence in that civil rights action.
Its just frightening to see a Senator poo poo a crime like perjury. Where was their outrage when Clinton was being raked over the coals for getting a bob job. IF they were so moral as they claim to be then theyd be more outraged by a president that sent this country to war on the basis of lies.
another technicality: THE COMMON PLAN OR CONSPIRACY (Charter, Article 6, especially 6 ) III. Statement of the Offense All the defendants, with divers other persons, participated as leaders, organizers, instigators, or accomplices in the formulation or execution of a common plan or conspiracy to commit, or which involved the commission of, Crimes against Peace, War Crimes, and Crimes against Humanity, as defined in the Charter of this Tribunal, and, in accordance with the provisions of the Charter, are individually responsible for their own acts and for all acts committed by any persons in the execution of such plan or conspiracy.
Shes just glad she didnt get convicted on some perjury technicality or anything else when Ronnie Earle indicted her 12 years ago. Sadly, down here, she often looks like a 500-watt light bulb of sanity next to our other senator, John Cornyn.
The wingnuts are trying to deflect attention from the fact that a per jury charge may be in lieu of other charges becaue perjury made getting at the truth impossible.
As usual republican fools like Gary Ruppert sit around and attack any one who dares prosecute any republican who is accused of committing a crime. Thats right Gary the left does hate the Patriot Act, but my friend this has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. These guys tried to smear Joe Wilson and his wife and it backfired on them. Remember Watergate, Gary, well this may turn out the same way. They referred to it (Watergate) as a third rate burglury which brought down a president. Well my friend this third rate smear campaign is going to bring down two top officials. Because they couldnt stand to be criticized by opponents. Gary I just love the intregity this whitehouse has brought back to Washington. They are above petty politics and highly ethical to a man. Thats why no administration official in under investigation. Thats why the Senate Major Leader and House Majority Leader arent under investigation. This is the most honest administration in American history and I hope they keep up the good work. Im sure he has what it takes, just look at his comments. Hell get one of these jobs because they will soon be open.
Gary Ruppert cant defend the crimes committed, or what that says abo ut his guy and his movement and so must focus on distracting people with the Fitz is out of control meme.
The defintion of h ypocrite should become synonamous with Republican. A photo of any Republicunt could be placed next to the definition of hypocrite in the dictionary.
Maybe Rove and Libby would be in better shape if they had merely foll owed Rices lead. All she did was out an undercover Al Qaeda operative by the name of Khan, during the 04 campaign. He was only exchanging emails about current,(at the time) Al Qaeda operations. Everything is an isolated incident, and no events are related to the other.
To be a republican today, you have to believe that the only morality that you possess is simply that which you perceive to advance your own cause at a given time. If that means applying a rigid standard to Clinton over something small and then not applying any standard to something huge concerning Bush, then you do it simply because you are a conservative person with the worst kinds of values imaginable.
COF, choice quote from that video about Harriet Miers: I know her, they know her she is totally quallified for the Supreme Court of the United States. Her legal background, her absolute leadership in the legal field when she was a practicing lawyerare unqualified. Also (re: Plame leak investigation, after trivializing the crime of perjury): I think it is important that we have a perjury crime. Its nice to see that even though the loyal Bushites like Hutchinson recognize that Miers is unqualified and that crimes were committed in the Plame case, they are still able to stick up for their guy.
They are tripping over themselves in a futile effort to diminish the seriousness of all of this, to keep themselves endeared to their party, and to keep the votes of their constituents. They are all hypocrites, liars, self-serving crooks who cannot/will not admit their party is corrupt and going to be exposed theyre all trying to cover their behinds.
Willful, corrupt, and false sworn testimony before a Federal grand j ury is a separate and distinct crime under applicable law and is material and perjurious if it is capable of influencing the grand jury in any matter before it, including any collateral matters that it may consider. See, Title 18, Section 1623, US Code, and Federal court cases interpreting that Section.
then: The perjury committed in the second example was an attempt to impede, fr ustrate, and obstruct the judicial system in determining how the man wa s injured or killed, when, and by whose hand, in order to escape person al responsibility under the law, either civil or criminal. To say otherwise would be to severely lower t he moral and legal standards of accountability that are imposed on ordi nary citizens every day. Nearly every child in America believes that President Washington, as a c hild himself, did in fact cut down the cherry tree and admitted to his father that he did it, saying simply: I cannot tell a lie. I will not compromise this simple but high moral principle in order to a void serious consequences to a successor President who may choose to ig nore it.
now: I certainly hope that if there is going to be an indictment that says so mething happened, that it is an indictment on a crime and not some perj ury technicality where they couldnt indict on the crime so they go to something just to show that their two years of investigation were not a waste of time and dollars. Now, its a Republican president and his staff that are under the gun.
Hutchison: You are correct Please forgive my literary license in interpreting and abbreviating a politicians usual long-winded answer. Me: I see So, if there were no real crimes committed, then why on earth would such astute political operatives be so utterly foolish as to perjure themselves before a grand jury?
It is an insult to Americans to have leadership like this. Im not enthusiastic about the post-Plamegate Washington landscape. How many of these Yea-sayers were more interested in their next campaign than in standing up for what they believed in? Will this sordid affair add any weight to the Bush Lied side of the scale? Alot of Democratic Senators and Representatives need to do some long, hard looking in the mirror if they want to get this country back on track.
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